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| aricarrot Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5726 days ago 20 posts - 23 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish | Message 1 of 13 08 July 2009 at 10:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm following the method used by the cool people over at antimoon.com. They used input to become fluent in English without ever leaving Poland. Because they are input-oriented, they say that you should avoid speaking in the target language until you have had heard tons of it to avoid making pronunciation mistakes, grammar mistakes, etc.
Anyways, I've been listening to and reading French for a few months now (while entering sentences into my SRS) and I was just wondering when I should try to find a language partner to talk to. I don't want to be writing or talking too soon and ingrain poor pronunciation! Has anyone used this method? When did you start speaking? And even if you didn't use the method, what were your experiences with language partners/exchanges and speaking? Thank you!! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| osaieh Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5944 days ago 14 posts - 14 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German | Message 2 of 13 09 July 2009 at 3:23am | IP Logged | ||
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I've never used this method, and I never could. I cannot comprehend words and sounds fully until ive said them myself. And I think that regardless of when you start speaking, you still have to go through the process of learning pronunciation, and it won't be perfect at first no matter what. I can maybe understand not saying certain grammatical structures until youve learned them though.
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| fairyfountain Senior Member Zimbabwe Joined 6136 days ago 254 posts - 248 votes  5 sounds | Message 3 of 13 09 July 2009 at 3:33am | IP Logged | ||
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If you have time to kill, you can check out my log
I've been using the methods for 3 months. ~Input-only, or living in the US for free I was way against speaking on Skype at first, because I wanted to sort my R sound out, but I'm now using skype hardcore - I call people every week at least, often for hours. Hope this helps. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5677 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 4 of 13 09 July 2009 at 6:10pm | IP Logged | ||
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That is the big problem with the "input only" method. You are supposed to just absorb until you are "ready". But when do you decide you are ready?
I have seen so many people learning languages for years, and still unable to utter a short sentence. Their usual thought is "if I just study a bit longer, and get some more vocabulary, and learn some more grammar, then it will soon 'click'". But it never does for many people. The input only approach keeps them mute. Personally, I take the opposite approach to "input only". I encourage folks to become "fluent" as soon as possible, even with a very limited vocabulary. If you are interested, my website has a few pages talking about how I teach people to achieve this (and what I mean by "fluent"). Why stay mute? I just don't buy that "bad habits get cemented" line. If you keep high levels of input, and progressive levels of output, continually - and always look out for feedback - you will always improve. In short, speak as soon as you feel the urge, and realise you are taking baby steps at first but that progress comes quickly. If you keep waiting, you may be waiting forever. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| antitrustfund Diglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5577 days ago 17 posts - 16 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Japanese, German, French, Polish | Message 5 of 13 27 August 2009 at 7:55am | IP Logged | ||
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We all go through a process of sucking when we speak, but along the way we get better through the input of others and consistent speaking in the L2. Makign mistakes is a natural part of the process. For those with psychological barriers that prevent you from speaking the lanuage or getting nervous or whatever, get over it.
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| Lingua Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5584 days ago 186 posts - 319 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch | Message 6 of 13 27 August 2009 at 10:24am | IP Logged | ||
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Don't be afraid of speaking. You will make mistakes, but these will gradually become fewer as you get more input.
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| Lingua Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5584 days ago 186 posts - 319 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch | Message 7 of 13 27 August 2009 at 10:30am | IP Logged | ||
Perfect 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| maaku Senior Member United States Joined 5582 days ago 359 posts - 562 votes Speaks: English* | Message 8 of 13 28 August 2009 at 3:34am | IP Logged | ||
Never, ever pass up an opportunity to use the language you are learning. Otherwise what's the point? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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