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maaku
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 Message 9 of 15
04 September 2009 at 2:18pm | IP Logged 
If a textbook/course comes in two flavors (kana and romaji), then obviously use the kana version. But that's one of the least important factors in choosing which book, course, or method to use. Beginning Japanese and Living Language are great courses (I used them both).
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Poppy
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 Message 10 of 15
04 September 2009 at 3:23pm | IP Logged 
Like what everyone else has said--if you want to learn japanese seriously you should start learning kana. Personally if learning both hiragana and katakana at the same time is too much learn hiragana first. After learning hiragana I was able to learn katakana within a day or so. Once you learn kana pronunciation will become much easier (if it is a problem).
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lancemanion
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 Message 11 of 15
05 September 2009 at 4:09am | IP Logged 
Both Genki and Japanese for Everyone start out with a mixture. As these are the best beginners texts I know of, I
wouldn't count them out just because they have a little romaji in them. That being said, I agree that one should
wean themselves from romaji as soon as possible.

And it's annoying there aren't full kanji beginner texts for English speakers. Perhaps learn Chinese first, then learn
Japanese thru Chinese. Or settle for Tae Kim.
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Kendrah
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 Message 12 of 15
05 September 2009 at 4:54pm | IP Logged 
While I appricate all the comments, you all as missing the point of this thread. I'm not looking for a way to get out of learning the writing system. In fact, that is one of the main reasons I am studying japanese.

However, I was curious whether it's very good to disregard some course books just because they are all in romaji. I know that you have to learn the kana, but I'm not certain the current wisdom of throwing out all the text that DOESN'T have the kana is the best.
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Bao
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 Message 13 of 15
05 September 2009 at 5:38pm | IP Logged 
Maybe we were blinded by too many people that asked if they had to learn the kana and if, when.
As I mentioned, I can't say anything about the quality and level of English-based Japanese textbooks. In German, the textbooks I've seen, the ones that have been released in the last decade, all used kana. I personally wouldn't want start out to learn Japanese from a book that was releaseed in the 1980ies or earlier, because I wouldn't want an outdated text as my base of the language.
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lancemanion
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 Message 14 of 15
05 September 2009 at 8:14pm | IP Logged 
Kendrah wrote:
Which is the best way to go?

This is the only question you asked in your original post, and I think most posts tried to answer it. We are happy to
answer new questions, but there's no need to give us a hard time time for doing what you asked.
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Kendrah
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 Message 15 of 15
05 September 2009 at 9:08pm | IP Logged 
lancemanion wrote:
This is the only question you asked in your original post, and I think most posts tried to answer it. We are happy to
answer new questions, but there's no need to give us a hard time time for doing what you asked.


Don't go over the top. In actuality, it wasn't the only question I asked. If you read the full paragraph, you would've seen the second question. But it hardly matters. My question was answered full enough.


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