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Translating かね
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hombre gordo Triglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5589 days ago 184 posts - 247 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Japanese Studies: Portuguese, Korean	Message 1 of 3 06 September 2009 at 10:36pm \| IP Logged
	What is a suitable translation for the two ending particles か＋ね combined? I think I understand this construction but I have never had any formal teaching on it so I would like to confirm its usage and translation. Would "do you?" with a negative feeling of doubt (low in intonation) be an appropriate English translation? Some random example sentences, some take from google search results, some taken from TV. 貴方の考えは変わらないかね？難しい文章ではないと思うんだけど意味わからないのかね君は幽霊を信じないのかね君、娼婦と軍人とを一緒にするのかね？ Now if I try to translate these sentences, is my translation of かね right? Is the nuance correct? 1)Your thoughts/ideas don't change do they? 2)I don't think that it is a difficult sentence, but you don't (really) understand do you? 3)You don't believe in Ghosts do you? 4)So (now)you're comparing a soldier with a harlot (aren't you)? (all low intonation, more of a statement than a question) Just a little explanation of this construction please. 1 person has voted this message useful
lancemanion Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5578 days ago 150 posts - 166 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Thai Studies: French, Mandarin, Japanese	Message 2 of 3 07 September 2009 at 4:01am \| IP Logged
	I've always thought of "かね" as "right?" 1 person has voted this message useful
Z.J.J Senior Member China Joined 5614 days ago 243 posts - 305 votes Speaks: Mandarin*	Message 3 of 3 07 September 2009 at 6:05am \| IP Logged
	「かね／のかね」can reinforce an impolite rhetorical question which may express your dissatisfaction with something, it's only a rough translation: "is it possible that..." or "could it be said that...". 1 person has voted this message useful

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