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| LLF Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5586 days ago 66 posts - 72 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 10 07 September 2009 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Is it appropriate to make a request for an accent review in this forum ? I have a couple of mp3s of my reading which I'd appreciate some feedback on, but I can't see any specific place where such a request should be made.
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| Me has to learn Groupie Germany Joined 5563 days ago 64 posts - 75 votes Speaks: German* | Message 2 of 10 07 September 2009 at 7:23pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Hello. I would try to give you feedback on your German.
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| Paskwc Pentaglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5683 days ago 450 posts - 624 votes Speaks: Hindi, Urdu*, Arabic (Levantine), French, English Studies: Persian, Spanish | Message 3 of 10 07 September 2009 at 7:50pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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From what I understand there's a way to upload audio clips to this website but I think
you need to be a senior member to do that. That said, other people have posted clips onto rapidshare and youtube and then left a link for forum members to follow. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| LLF Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5586 days ago 66 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English* | Message 4 of 10 07 September 2009 at 8:18pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Thanks. You can download the German file from: http://www.easy-share.com/1907662755/herr_und_hund.mp3 and the French one from: http://www.easy-share.com/1907662735/ombre_chinoise.mp3 I don't know how to insert links so you'll have to cut and paste the text. Sorry. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6476 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 5 of 10 07 September 2009 at 8:59pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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Your German accent is one of the best I've ever heard! Congratulations!
You could leave it like this. If you do want to work on it, here are some pointers: Words I had trouble understanding the first time: Frühe (your ü is a weak point, also in "rückwärtige", but in "Züge" it was better), Melodie (should be stressed meloDIE), "sich nähernd" (not articulated), "Anstrengung" (should be stressed ANstrengung), Your As and Es (e. g. in "geht") are a bit off from where a native speaker would pronounce them, if you want to be mistaken for a native speaker, I'd say you only need to work on these and the Ü, there is no other difference that I could discern. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Me has to learn Groupie Germany Joined 5563 days ago 64 posts - 75 votes Speaks: German* | Message 6 of 10 07 September 2009 at 10:16pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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To give valuable feedback is more difficult than I thought it would be. I agree, you have a good pronunciation.
Personally I would speak the E's more closed and the Ö's more rounded and stress both vowels a tad more. The Ü's have to be more rounded otherwise the tend to sound like I's. Though it isn't incorrect "wenig" is pronounced "weniCH" in standard German. I think you know that because in "welche" you said "welKe". So it isn't wenig/weniCH issue but you might want to stress the CH more clearly. That was picky. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| LLF Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5586 days ago 66 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English* | Message 7 of 10 08 September 2009 at 11:12am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Thanks very much. That's quite surprising given that I never have a chance to speak it. And I have to say, to me, it sounds pretty clearly that I'm an Englishman. There's something in the German diction that seems to be missing when I speak; I'm not sure what it is though.
Yes. For some reason I seem to be over-pronouncing u-umlaut, and it sounds almost like an "i". I need to practise this a bit more.
Yes, I screwed up on "Melodie". I know how to say it properly though, honest, Guv. "sich nahernd". I swallowed the "ernd" part a little, though I think the recording isnt too good either; it seems very bassy for some reason, which makes it sound worse. "Anstrengung" - Thanks. I didn't realise the stress goes on the "An".
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong with the A and E. Could you give me an example of a word where I'm articulating them incorrectly ? As for being mistaken for a native though: you're flattering me ? I can't see that that's likely. (and undesirable - my level of oral comprehension is about 25% of my ability to pronounce :-( so I don't want native Germans talking at full speed to me) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| LLF Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5586 days ago 66 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English* | Message 8 of 10 08 September 2009 at 11:19am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Thanks. I'm glad to hear it, given that I only read and listen to German.
I understand "more rounded" but I'm not sure what you mean by "more closed". I should keep my lips closer together when I say "e" ?
Yes, I've noticed this tendency. I can articulate "u-umlaut" correctly, in fact, but it's much more difficult when I'm trying to read smoothly for a recording. I seem to get slightly tense and nervous about making mistakes (the recording you hear was probably the 20th attempt :-)
I'm afraid I don't understand what you're saying here: I'm pronouncing "wenig" and "welche" incorrectly ?
That's fine. I like picky. Anyone out there want to be picky about the French one ? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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