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| zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6380 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes  Speaks: English* | Message 9 of 40 23 August 2008 at 1:48am | IP Logged | ||
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I have read that the IPA is not really 100% phonetic at all and that a true phonetic alphabet would be much larger. That the IPA is really a phonemic alphabet but the best and most precise one every constructed. I read about an attempt to create a truley phonetic alphabet but I have long since forgotten where i read it or what the name of the book was.
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| obara Newbie India subramanian-obula.blRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5974 days ago 21 posts - 22 votes Studies: Gujarati | Message 10 of 40 23 August 2008 at 3:37am | IP Logged | ||
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If IPA is not 100% phonetic at all as Mr.Zeothinking says, then Linguists should evolve a chart containing all possible vowels, dipthongs and consonants and other things if any.
Let there by 50 or even 100 symbols to represent all possible symbols - theoretically possibe and actually in usage in a particular language. Having listed the entire possible sounds, then we can determine the symbols required to speak a particular language. I am concerned with spoken form only. Those who want to study literature, they have to go in for studying the script of that concerned language. If a book is prepared containing 5000 sentences to be used in day to day conversation, then the same should be translated in major languages of the world. The shape of the common script symbols should have aesthetic look and they should be easy to write. Symbols from major languages can be adopted while evolving a common script. I do not agree that the script of a particular language can be learnt at no time. The person who says so, first master chinese Kanji. He should then learn Chinese, Japanese and Korean if possible. Afterwards he should assert that the script of these languages are very easy and no time they can be learnt. A genius and who is young perhaps can do. But for a senior citizen like me, it is impossible. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6558 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 11 of 40 23 August 2008 at 3:10pm | IP Logged | ||
That's quite an exaggeration. Either you are smarter than the average person, or have a very different interpretation of "learning". 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| TDC Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6929 days ago 261 posts - 291 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, French Studies: Esperanto, Ukrainian, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Persian | Message 12 of 40 23 August 2008 at 3:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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I learned Cyrillic in an hour or two. It's extremely easy. And all I used was the Windows Character Map as a guide.
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6917 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 13 of 40 23 August 2008 at 4:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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Just chiming on the Cyrillic thing, a woman called the library the other day to ask about the literature used in the upcoming Russian university course, and mentioned that she in fact had thought about not even taking the class "due to he difficult alphabet". How silly! I said (based on my own experience) that it would take one hour (two at most, including remapping the fingers for a pure Cyrillic keyboard), and if it took anything longer than that, there was probably something wrong. I hope she got inspired rather than frightened.
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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6558 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 14 of 40 23 August 2008 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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I doubt it. I hear silly claims like this on the internet all the time, but in real life I've never met anyone learn any script, to the point where they're reading and writing it comfortably, in less than a month.
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| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6917 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 15 of 40 23 August 2008 at 6:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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I don't want to change the focus of this thread more than necessary, but the Cyrillic alphabet is really no big deal (especially considering the fact that several letters are identical). I learned it in "real time" by manually copying (=typing into Word) lessons from a textbook* where the letters were introduced gradually (lots of pictures, so probably about an hour to get through the whole alphabet).
Nobody said anything about "mastering the script". * I ended up having copied the entire textbook, but that's another story. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7023 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 16 of 40 23 August 2008 at 6:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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As leosmith mentioned, it depends on how you define "learning the script".
I learned the Cyrillic alphabet in a few hours. This means that I can now see a letter and know how it should be pronounced and what position it should be alphabetically. However, when it comes to reading using the Cyrillic script, I still sound out the individual letters on most words and I feel as if I'm in primary school again. Edited by patuco on 23 August 2008 at 6:46pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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