C6Silver Newbie United States Joined 5514 days ago 6 posts - 12 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 9 of 37 25 October 2009 at 8:08am | IP Logged |
I am interested in the French version of this course as well. I am just nervous about how far 1+2 will take me. I have been through Michele Thomas which I liked very much, but it has been a few years. I like the idea of a more interactive study program with the ability to practice writing as well. I went through their demo and found it very simple, but the demo only covered the 3rd lesson to be fair. I wish they would show a late lesson just to get an idea. If at the end of this course it does not cover much more than Michele Thomas then I am not sure it would be worth it for me.
Would also love to hear a comment from someone who has been through the program as to how far they believe it brought them.
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tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5871 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish
| Message 10 of 37 25 October 2009 at 2:01pm | IP Logged |
Here is the link to Fluenz: http://www.fluenz.com
They offer Mandarin, Spanish, French and Italian. and say "More coming soon" with no further info. That is aggravating and inconsiderate. I know it is difficult to offer exact information like that. But I think they should offer some info. The company is quite new and has a very progressive attitude. I'm sure they want to become very engaged with the language learning community. So I have asked them for any information about other languages. I suggested they post it on their web site. If I get any info, I'll post it here.
It looks like they are looking for people. Some of our Forum polyglots should probably check them out. Looks like they offer a very flexible work environment, including working remotely. Probably lots of opportunities.
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aftonbladet Newbie Sweden Joined 5076 days ago 32 posts - 35 votes Studies: Spanish
| Message 11 of 37 06 January 2011 at 5:36pm | IP Logged |
First post here!
Not a native English speaker. Have been using Fluenz since summer. Now halfway through
part 3.
Like it a lot, especially that its so addicting. I agree with a lot of the critisim
against fluenz, its pretty basic, but on the other hand, I probably wouldnt have sticked
with a languagelearning program for this long (78 2hour lessons) if it wasnt funny.
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Darklight1216 Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5105 days ago 411 posts - 639 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German
| Message 12 of 37 06 January 2011 at 7:32pm | IP Logged |
I tried out Fluenz and it seems to be pretty good. Sorry, but since I have access to Mango Languages, Pimsleur, FSI, Living Language and other programs for free, I have no reason to purchase Fluenz and see how far it takes me.
I can't say that I'm a fan of Rosetta Stone. It doesn't begin with useful vocabulary. When I started learning French I didn't want to know how to say fish, I wanted to know how to ask if someone speaks English. It seems like it would be better for someone who wants to expand their vocabulary, not a beginner. That's just my opinion, of course.
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aftonbladet Newbie Sweden Joined 5076 days ago 32 posts - 35 votes Studies: Spanish
| Message 13 of 37 10 January 2011 at 7:56pm | IP Logged |
If you are saying what I think youre saying Darklight1216 you will also be able to have
acces to fluenz Spanish v.1 level 1+2. t p b
Anyway I bought level 3-5 after having done level 1-2.
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I Am Steve Newbie United States Joined 4933 days ago 17 posts - 17 votes Studies: French
| Message 14 of 37 29 May 2011 at 4:58pm | IP Logged |
I'm on lesson 6. Thus far I've learned basic but highly useful things: ordering coffee
with or without sugar, asking where someone is, telling someone where someone is, etc.
Things of that nature. It also has already covered the logic behind conjugation.
At the end of every lesson there's a long series of activities to make sure you have
learned and retained the information. They're extensive (I only do about 3 of the 7-8
activities).
I still 24 lessons left in this French I pack, but it's safe to say that I'd recommend
it.
By the way, the female instructor is damn adorable. Her beauty is a tad distracting at
first.
Edited by I Am Steve on 29 May 2011 at 5:01pm
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varjakpaul Newbie United States Joined 4933 days ago 22 posts - 20 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Spanish, Mandarin, Persian
| Message 15 of 37 30 May 2011 at 5:09am | IP Logged |
Cainntear wrote:
I've done the Mandarin demo and if it wasn't for the price I'd have bought the Chinese course by now. Or maybe if the demo had been a bit longer. I'm certainly intrigued by the way it's presented -- it seems kind of halfway between Michel Thomas and Pimsleur.... |
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If that's the case I might give it a go - I like Pimsleur a lot and it has been recall of sentences learned by that method that have come to mind when I needed to express myself in a foreign country but wasn't proficient enough to think one up on the spot. I did the Michal Thomas Basic Mandarin. I liked how that one had you thinking about sentence structure and how to generate (new) sentences. But the slooooooooooow pronunciation is really questionable; I guess you have to use another method (immersion or the likes) to get true to lifelike listening practice.
But, no, I never heard of Fluenz, or Assimil either, till today. What's for sure is that I doubt that there is one perfect method. I don't even mean different learning styles; I mean each of these methods seems to offer something, but not the complete package to get from zero knowledge to, say, intermediate state.
And i agree Rosetta Stone is a joke as far as providing usable vocabulary. Instead I gotta learn about how many kids jumped off a table, or whether he's inside or under the airplane. Useful stuff.
Edited by varjakpaul on 30 May 2011 at 5:10am
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zekecoma Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5349 days ago 561 posts - 655 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 16 of 37 30 May 2011 at 6:27am | IP Logged |
I Am Steve wrote:
I'm on lesson 6. Thus far I've learned basic but highly useful
things: ordering coffee
with or without sugar, asking where someone is, telling someone where someone is, etc.
Things of that nature. It also has already covered the logic behind conjugation.
At the end of every lesson there's a long series of activities to make sure you have
learned and retained the information. They're extensive (I only do about 3 of the 7-8
activities).
I still 24 lessons left in this French I pack, but it's safe to say that I'd recommend
it.
By the way, the female instructor is damn adorable. Her beauty is a tad distracting at
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Yeah I've only done 6 lessons of the Spanish one. I'm only using it until I finish the
2nd one then I'll go into Assimil Spanish with Ease. If it was a little cheaper like
$100 I would recommend it for the basics then I would recommend something like
Assimil/Colloquial/Teach Yourself afterwards.
Yeah the exercises are a little long, but it is really nice. I still have a few troubles
understanding the words where they tell you to type what your hear. But most of the time
I can understand. The only thing I don't like is that isn't not that well in depth for
each lesson, it's a little small, but it still good. While it might not bring you to a
B1/B2, it surely will give you a stepping stone to the language.
It's really turn off's is it's small in language selection, I wish there was a Russian
and German one. Russian is what I would like more. But it is cheaper than Rosetta Stone
and actually helps you from an English point of view. I really enjoy it.
He he, that's also another thing, Sonja, she's my eye candy reward for finishing each
lesson ;P.
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