xandreax Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5903 days ago 142 posts - 160 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Italian
| Message 17 of 38 24 July 2009 at 1:15am | IP Logged |
Kyrie wrote:
xandreax wrote:
Nice to see you're interested in all the same languages that I am! How is the FSI material for Portuguese? I actually have it but most recently I had been working with a book/cd "Aquarela" which is really good. |
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The FSI material is great! I don't feel that I learn enough each lesson but my pronunciation has improved ten fold with it. :)
And what is this "Aquarela" book/cd you speak of? |
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Check it out on amazon.com if you want, I think it would be best for beginner/intermediate students. I'll put the (very long, heheh) product description!
Product Description
Aquarela - Portuguese for Foreigners is designed to teach Portuguese as a second language to people who are interested in learning the language and culture of Brazil. This encompasses the history, music, culture, geography and food of this fascinating country. Brazil is a huge melting pot. Today s Brazilians are the descendents, mostly intermixed, of Africans, Europeans, Native Indians, Asians and Middle Easterners. Brazilian culture is complex and varied; it is the land of soccer, samba, bossa nova and the Amazon. Despite these culturally important aspects of life in Brazil, it is a potentially rich country with a strong industrial sector, large agricultural production, and rich natural resources. Whether you are interested in business, pleasure or both, Aquarela will expose you all aspects of Brazilian Portuguese and culture. This book aims to be a practical approach to language training, focusing on everyday language use as well as work-related situations. The method provides students of Brazilian Portuguese with an in-depth, structured approach to learning vocabulary, and helps them develop oral communication and comprehension skills. Grammar is explained for practical use, keeping linguistic terminology to a minimum. This book is an excellent source of wide-ranging, up-todate vocabulary and useful phrases, and is suitable for adult students. This comprehensive book (complete with 6 hours of high-quality CD audio instruction). Although Aquarela is primarily intended for beginner to intermediate level students, the book is comprehensive in nature. It will prove useful to anyone in need of a thorough, easy-to-use and fun textbook to help improve Portuguese language skills. Aquarela was created to be practical and user-friendly. It contains original artwork and photos which help the user better visualize the beauty of Brazil s landmarks, architecture, landscape, folklore and culture. Lessons are easy to access thanks to a straightforward structure. Grammar is explained in English, presented schematically with graphics and tables, and in context, emphasizing particular grammatical concepts introduced in logical order. The book uses a highly effective method with CD aimed to develop listening comprehension and pronunciation skills. The audio CD enables you to hear Portuguese as it is really spoken by presenting dialogues between native Brazilian speakers. The CD includes recordings of all 10 lesson dialogues and texts, some grammar, vocabulary and oral exercises.
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I have also bought the book "Para a Frente!: An Intermediate Course in Portuguese" from amazon.com because of the reviews. I don't know yet how it is... I'll use it in the future =D
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Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5732 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese
| Message 18 of 38 24 July 2009 at 1:18am | IP Logged |
Thank you so much! I'll look into buying Aquarela.
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Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5732 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese
| Message 19 of 38 25 August 2009 at 5:46am | IP Logged |
Haven't studied in over a month! But I'm back to studying regularly. I did 30 mins of study yesterday and the day before. And I did flashcards today. (:
Update: I'm going to start doing L-R as a supplementary method. I got rid of Pimsleur because I felt bad about downloading it from a torrent along with Rosetta Stone. So that's been deleted.
Edited by Kyrie on 25 August 2009 at 5:52am
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meus azuis Bilingual Diglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6150 days ago 21 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English*, Gujarati* Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 20 of 38 06 September 2009 at 6:54am | IP Logged |
Oi Kyrie!
Quer conversar comigo em portugues? Eu tambem estou aprendendo e preciso praticar.
Me fala!
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Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5732 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese
| Message 21 of 38 04 October 2009 at 7:31am | IP Logged |
Oi, meus_azuis! Sorry for the long time no reply. I've been a bit busy ever since school started. But sure, contact me through Skype and we can do a language exchange! (:
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Ok so this isn't working out too well. My studies are unorganized and sporadic. I seem to not be able to work freelancing. So I have devised a new method. I've decided to make an organized schedule that I am to follow each day for two hours. Here's the plan:
Hours daily: 2
1. Flashcards – Mnemosyne. Review vocabulary in Oxford Portuguese Dictionary
Total time: 15 minutes
2. Read – Read books/articles and pick out unknown words. Create a list of the unknown words.
Total time: 45 minutes
3. Listen to podcasts/music in Portuguese
Total time: 30 minutes
4.Write in journal
Total time: 15 minutes
5.Talk to Brazilian friends
Total time: 15 minutes at the least
I will log more come later days. And I will see just how this method is turning out for me. As for now, I need to get some sleep. 'Tis 12:30 AM. I plan to start this afternoon.
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Hobbema Senior Member United States Joined 5744 days ago 541 posts - 575 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese, French, Dutch
| Message 22 of 38 04 October 2009 at 10:13pm | IP Logged |
Hi Kyrie, I wish you the best in your continued studies with Portuguese! I must say that I've been comparing my own study methods with yours in an attempt to find out what works and what doesn't. Do you find Mnemosyne effective? I toy with it on and off, it hasn't really tricked my trigger but I'm always looking for a better way.
Hobbema
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Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5732 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese
| Message 23 of 38 05 October 2009 at 12:03am | IP Logged |
Hello, Hobbema. Mnemosyne is effective given that you use it right. Here's what I mean.
Back when I first started using the software, I used to spend more time entering a large number of words into it and trying to memorize those all in one night rather than take it in bite sizes. And man did I wonder why I didn't remember the words when I needed them.
A good way to use the software is to do little by little. (Maybe 20 words a day.) And, if you're OCD like me, format the font size and style to one that you prefer. (I have to have 22pt Arial font for my flash cards OR ELSE. XD)
Another thing that I'd suggest doing is getting a tape recorder and a list of the words you're trying to memorize. Tape record and playback yourself saying those words. That way, when you read in your TL, you can hear yourself say those words in your head, in your own voice. That always helped me. I used to read articles in Portuguese and I could only pronounce in my head words that I've heard myself speak before. The rest were silent.
So yeah, those are my methods. Read a lot of Portuguese with a dictionary and an open mind and watch a lot of TV or listen to a lot of music/radio in Portuguese. the more input the better. :)
Hope that helps.
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Hobbema Senior Member United States Joined 5744 days ago 541 posts - 575 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese, French, Dutch
| Message 24 of 38 05 October 2009 at 12:31am | IP Logged |
Actually it does help. For example, my company paid for a tutor for me and one other guy. She kept telling us we should do just that, listen to ourselves on tape; when I listened to myself on tape, I heard what she described what we were doing, that we were "swallowing" our words. It was difficult because I feel very awkward hearing my own voice recorded, but it was a good lesson in understanding why native speakers weren't able to understand me!
Keep the faith, and keep working.
hobbema
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