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Turn pseudo-USaccent into an English one?

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cordelia0507
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United Kingdom
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 Message 17 of 22
21 July 2009 at 1:43pm | IP Logged 
Fairyfountain --- you are making the RIGHT choice mate! After all you are a European. Don't start speaking like an American unless you are going to live there.

Personally I think it sounds pretty bad when French people speak American English (it suits some accents, but not the French!)

I keep saying this, but BBC Radio 4 is really very good for this purpose.

It has a wide range of interesting talk programs on lots of different subjects, and the accents used are exactly those that you should be aiming for.

Don't worry about the pro/contra "RP" debate... It can be confusing and is irrelevant at this stage.

Just go for the straight BBC "no-regional" accent. This gives you the British equivalent of the "Tours" French accent if I understand French accents right.


If you feel a strong need to sound like a "common" person, you can always add that later. The important thing is not to walk around in the UK sounding like a wannabe cowboy! ;-)
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krog
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Austria
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 Message 19 of 22
21 July 2009 at 3:54pm | IP Logged 
cordelia0507 wrote:
Fairyfountain --- you are making the RIGHT choice mate! After
all you are a European. Don't start speaking like an American unless you are going to
live there.

Personally I think it sounds pretty bad when French people speak American English (it
suits some accents, but not the French!)

I keep saying this, but BBC Radio 4 is really very good for this purpose.

It has a wide range of interesting talk programs on lots of different subjects, and
the accents used are exactly those that you should be aiming for.

Don't worry about the pro/contra "RP" debate... It can be confusing and is irrelevant
at this stage.

Just go for the straight BBC "no-regional" accent. This gives you the British
equivalent of the "Tours" French accent if I understand French accents right.


If you feel a strong need to sound like a "common" person, you can always add that
later. The important thing is not to walk around in the UK sounding like a wannabe
cowboy! ;-)


I concur, I think that's excellent advice. I think the kind of accent on Radio 4 is a
kind of technocrats' accent, divorced from a particular regional or class background -
or at least, it's a neutral middle-class accent.
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fairyfountain
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Zimbabwe
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 Message 20 of 22
21 July 2009 at 10:50pm | IP Logged 
Thanks for your answers guys, but I gave up on the English accent a week ago, lol. By the way, I don't sound French at all in English, just American-foreign, but most people can't place my accent. I'm not saying that being a "wannabe cowboy" is the epitome of awesomeness, but I think I'm okay with it :-)
Anyway, unless someone finds a magic potion for English accents, I'll never get one, and that's perfectly fine with me.
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ACMark
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Uruguay
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 Message 21 of 22
04 August 2009 at 9:44pm | IP Logged 
Well, after reading almost the whole topic (except the last post) I was a bit worried about what I had to say, but after you said that you're giving up on the accents, I'm gonna give you an honest opinion.

But before, I must say that I really do NOT know if this is the case, as really, no one can prove it, but it's just a theory I thought of a while ago, after listening to my friends from Uruguay trying to pronounce some words in Portuguese, and obviously failing.

I believe that when you're a kid, your ear gets used to certain sounds, and so does your tongue; what I mean by this is that I'm pretty sure that there are certain words in some languages that (I'd risk saying 95% of) most people who learn it as a foreign will not be able to pronounce, simply because they can't tell the difference between the sounds, cause their ear isn't used to it and just won't tell the real difference, which in a lot of cases is a pretty slight one.

I'd like to re-state though, that this is just a theory I have, and I obviously can't prove it. (And even if this is ever to be considered true, I wouldn't know if this is your case anyway!)

Edited by ACMark on 04 August 2009 at 9:47pm

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gbarv
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 Message 22 of 22
05 August 2009 at 12:19am | IP Logged 
It is possible to train the ear to hear these differences. All the contrary with training everybody can pronounce all the sounds of the world languages. Any phonetician can sound out all the symbols on the IPA. Can't they?


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