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| The Narrator Diglot Newbie Israel Joined 5611 days ago 31 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English, Modern Hebrew* Studies: German | Message 41 of 47 09 August 2009 at 5:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
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By the way, this site contains frequency word lists in many languages:
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Frequency_lists 40,000 most common words in English, 10,000 most common words in German. Pretty amazing, eh? Edited by The Narrator on 09 August 2009 at 5:36pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6150 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 42 of 47 09 August 2009 at 5:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
Hm, are you counting English words, or words in another language? I tried copying a Portuguese Wikipedia article into that and it seemed to remove all words with accented characters or something of the like. And does it have a word limit? Did you copy the entire book into that text box once or repeatedly? Edited by ellasevia on 09 August 2009 at 5:44pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Narrator Diglot Newbie Israel Joined 5611 days ago 31 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English, Modern Hebrew* Studies: German | Message 43 of 47 09 August 2009 at 6:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
I copied German, I don't know whether it supports Portuguese. It doesn't have any word limitation - I entered the 805 pages long Heinrich Mann's "Die Jugend des Königs Henri Quatre" and got the output with no problems. Maybe you can find a pre-made list online, or try a different language. Edited by The Narrator on 09 August 2009 at 6:15pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| aloysius Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6248 days ago 226 posts - 291 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: French, Greek, Italian, Russian | Message 44 of 47 09 August 2009 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
But German is a rather synthetic language. So you would need a language-specific word counter if you would want a frequency list of the most common lexemes. That is, you would want, for instance, König and Königs to be mapped into the same lexeme. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| cutiepie Newbie Australia Joined 5588 days ago 8 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 45 of 47 16 August 2009 at 12:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
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To the poster who asked if there is a Portuguese frequency dictionary available, there is indeed "A Frequency Dictionary of Portuguese" (similar to the Spanish one), also by Mark Davies.
It contains the 5,000 most common words. The link in Amazon is here: http://www.amazon.com/Frequency-Dictionary-Portuguese-Routle dge-Dictionaries/dp/0415419972/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=125041 7936&sr=8-1 Edited by cutiepie on 16 August 2009 at 12:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Ocius Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5598 days ago 48 posts - 77 votes Speaks: English*, German, Ancient Greek Studies: French, Latin, Sanskrit | Message 46 of 47 16 August 2009 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
I just tried this with my copy Siddhartha and verified that it does, in fact, cut out all letters with any kind of accent on them: schöne becomes schne, etc... But my biggest issue with it is that it doesn't handle conjugations, declensions, etc., which greatly hinders its usefulness. It treats, for example, "sein," "ist," "sind" or "machen," "macht," etc., all as separate words so you wouldn't get a very accurate count for any inflected language. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Lingua Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5584 days ago 186 posts - 319 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch | Message 47 of 47 27 August 2009 at 5:30am | IP Logged | |||||
Even if you know 2, 3, 4, or even 5 times as many words, words and grammar alone will not allow you to carry out normal conversation. You have to learn how the words are combined into phrases and clauses to express the meanings you want to express. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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