ic32987 Groupie United States Joined 6348 days ago 50 posts - 54 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Arabic (Written)
| Message 1 of 4 20 July 2009 at 12:46am | IP Logged |
I have another thread going: sentences vs. words -- a discussion primarily based on www.alljapaneseallthetime.com. The method is wonderful, and I imagine is completely applicable to any language, but my questions are regarding Arabic, so I feel a new thread is warranted.
The gist is to find sentences that: (1) I understand every word of, (2) can read properly, (3) understand the 'meaning' of (not just memorization of how to say it), and (4) can write. The sentences must be authentic, and I should not worry about the grammar. You input these authentic materials into an SRS program, and naturally your brain figures out how to apply the syntax and grammar over time.
With Arabic, I cannot just find any authentic sentence and be able to know the proper pronunciation due to a lack of tashkeel/7araka. My practical options are then: children's books, or vocab databanks (and thus not sentences at this stage).
In your experience, do Arabic children's books 'teach you to speak like a child?' Or, aside from classical texts which aren't modern per se, can you recommend vowelized sources of sentences for a beginner?
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ic32987 Groupie United States Joined 6348 days ago 50 posts - 54 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Arabic (Written)
| Message 2 of 4 20 July 2009 at 6:58am | IP Logged |
For instance, these seem ideal, particularly the 10+ age range books:
http://www.childrenslibrary.org/icdl/BookReader?bookid=catbe ar_00310003&twoPage=true&route=simple_133,86_0_0_English_309 &size=0&fullscreen=false&pnum1=1&lang=English&ilang=English
I wonder how the Arabic sounds to a native, though...
And the sentences in the 3-5 age range?
http://www.childrenslibrary.org/icdl/BookReader?bookid=atfbi rd_00110001&twoPage=false&route=simple_84_0_0_English_309&si ze=0&fullscreen=false&pnum1=1&lang=English&ilang=English
Edited by ic32987 on 20 July 2009 at 7:00am
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ANK47 Triglot Senior Member United States thearabicstudent.blo Joined 7105 days ago 188 posts - 259 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), Arabic (classical)
| Message 3 of 4 02 August 2009 at 6:12am | IP Logged |
If you want to know how to pronounce things in Arabic then ideally you need to have an Arabic text and the audio of someone reading the text. GLOSS is the best source I know of for that. Also, there are sites of people reading the Quran but that's way more complicated than I think you want. Plus they sometimes extend vowels that you wouldn't normally extend just to make it sound better when they're singing it. And most of the words are ancient and not used often in MSA anymore.
I couldn't get your URLs to work. I tried deleting the spaces I found but it didn't work.
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