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| parkskier Newbie United States Joined 5771 days ago 15 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 1 of 11 29 July 2009 at 7:28pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I was wanting to implement the SRS system as outlined by AJATT and Spanishonly, however I haven't really seen what their resources are. I'm assuming it is native resources such as books or articles, but this seems very hit or miss. I might want to learn how to use a particular verb but not be able to find an example in those resources very easily. Is there some database that people use to find sentences for words? I'm particularly interested in Spanish resources for sentences. Thanks for the help.
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| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5677 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes  Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 2 of 11 29 July 2009 at 7:41pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Finding sentences for an SRS is one of the main questions people ask about the sentence method. I can see why you want to find a database with thousands of sentences in, but the problem is that the sentences will not resonate for you personally. Sure, you could pick up a phrase book or even a dictionary and type the sentences in, but they would be sterile - they wouldn't captivate you in any way - so studying them would be a chore.
As I understand it, the AJATT folks recommend you take note of real sentences as you come across them and as they grab you in real life. Rather than try to find 10,000 sentences up front, expect to add only a few a day - as you come across compelling sentences in your exposure to the language. Read books, read comics, talk to people, listen to songs - and jot down the sentences that strike you as interesting or worth remembering. At first, they may be childish sentences ("Fido is a Dog") and this is not necessarily bad - since you can handle those kind of sentences early on. As your ability improves, so will the complexity of your reading material and hence the sophistication of the sentences that strike you as worth mining for your SRS. Edited by Splog on 29 July 2009 at 7:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Katie Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6726 days ago 495 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, Hungarian Studies: French, German | Message 3 of 11 30 July 2009 at 12:29am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Yep, Splog's post resonates exactly what my understanding of the sentence method is (and what I am doing for Hungarian) :)
If I am looking at a particular grammatical point, I may use the example sentences from my grammar book, but most often, I just watch DVDs, read books and listen in conversation/radio. If anything catches me and I think "Oh I really want to know how to say that!" or "I'll need that later!" or even if it is using a word that I've had some trouble with (I struggled with lenni & volna for a while there), then I add it to my SRS. I'm only sitting on somewhere around 300 sentences at the moment, but it'll get there eventually! By the way, if you wanted to discuss anything about the method and share some ideas, feel free to PM me :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Javi Senior Member Spain Joined 5989 days ago 419 posts - 548 votes Speaks: Spanish* | Message 4 of 11 30 July 2009 at 1:10pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
How do you decide that a particular verb of a language you don't know is worth learning now, even if you haven't still encountered it in a real context, and not let's say, next month or never? Do you have to take exams at college or something? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| parkskier Newbie United States Joined 5771 days ago 15 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 5 of 11 30 July 2009 at 2:54pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I don't really know, I just might want to know how to say a certain thing. Obviously the most used verbs would be the first to tackle and then whatever else I want to say. Eventually, if I want to achieve fluency, nearly every word I encounter will be necessary. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Javi Senior Member Spain Joined 5989 days ago 419 posts - 548 votes Speaks: Spanish* | Message 6 of 11 31 July 2009 at 1:08am | IP Logged | ||||||||
There are different views, and at the end of the day I guess it all depends on what do you want to learn the language for and what level do you expect to reach. For example, I've never wanted to say anything because my goal is to understand the language, spoken and written, but that hasn't prevented me from actually saying things. On the other hand, if you can't just relax and wait because you are in rush to express yourself, then you'll have to rely on bilingual dictionaries, phrasebooks and bilingual people you could ask to translate for you. It's your choice. Edited by Javi on 31 July 2009 at 1:11am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| LiquidTester Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5798 days ago 28 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Czech | Message 7 of 11 01 August 2009 at 9:36am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Eventually, you will rely on sentences since every important grammatical point will come up naturally. At first though, you may want to do some rote memorization or get a passive understanding of how Spanish verbs work.
Where are you right now in terms of known grammar and vocabulary? I will let you know how I would go about getting closer to "All Sentences, All the Time". 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| parkskier Newbie United States Joined 5771 days ago 15 posts - 15 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 8 of 11 02 August 2009 at 8:38pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Well, I'd say I'm actually relatively far. I have a good grasp on present, imperfect, preterit, future, and conditional along with an understanding of the present and imperfect subjunctive (though I have trouble using them). Also I know the how to form the perfect tenses. So I'd say I have a broad understanding of most tenses; however, using the more advanced/less used tenses is difficult for me.
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