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| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5228 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes  Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 49 of 53 05 November 2011 at 4:28pm | IP Logged | ||
This reminds me when I was getting my official English teacher pips. We had these 'practice classes' groups of students, and classes were entirely conducted in English (to do otherwise was considered anathema), with several hours a day, and frequent 'coffee' breaks. One day I was particularly sick of being with the other teacher trainees, so I went for the coffee break with the students (some stayed after class for the coffee, some arrived early for a coffee before the class, your usual 'socializing' I guess). Now, supposedly everyone knew I was a national, but when I told them they could relax and stop speaking English if they wanted to, it was like I had break character in the middle of a play and suddenly everyone forgot they were at a theater. Apart from the much closer relationship that developed from that moment, they quickly started to demand a little help from me during the breaks, and also that I spoke in their language, so they could understand. I was glad to learn that they finally figured out what the main problem with their progress was (it had been quite clear to me all along), but then a question popped up in my mind: why do people put up with that kind of ******** in the first place? Edited by mrwarper on 05 November 2011 at 4:38pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6013 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 50 of 53 05 November 2011 at 7:24pm | IP Logged | ||
Because the hokum in the language learning world is well presented and quite convincing. A lot of people genuinely believe it when they're told that the reason they didn't learn anything in school was because of the use of the native language, rather than just poor teaching and/or teaching environment. 6 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| clumsy Octoglot Senior Member Poland lang-8.com/6715Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5180 days ago 1116 posts - 1367 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Japanese, Korean, French, Mandarin, Italian, Vietnamese Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swedish Studies: Danish, Dari, Kirundi | Message 51 of 53 08 November 2011 at 1:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think the important thing, is how advanced are you?
I don't think it's a good for beginner, but for intermediate... well, it's very nice idea. I have seen a book in English for people learning English. They taught things like "hello, I am from Russia" etc "My name is Boris". I don't know where you can find someone who cannot say his name in English, but has no problem with reading whole book in English. I have also saw such a TV show in Korean, they talked in Korean all the time, teaching the students very basic stuff. the title of it is " I love Korean" 한국어 사랑해요 you may watch it at youku.com It's a funny and entertaining show, but i don't think it should be targeted to beginners. but if you are intermediate, you can benefit from it (they speak slowly, and about easy stuff). Many books for foreigners, are written in Japanese, and they explain some grammar in Japanese. I would say they are useful, if you are able to, I recommend you to switch to the target language. but I don't think you can start it at the beginning, maybe with Dutch, but certainly not with something like Hmong, Russian, or Chinese. (unless your language is close to it, like Pole learning Russian etc). So, yes, but for intermediate or advanced students. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5336 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 52 of 53 08 November 2011 at 5:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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When you learn exclusively in your target language there is also the risk that you misunderstand. When I first arrived in Spain in the late 70ies I had a red bubble coat. The others would always refer to it as "tu bata roja" which I assumed meant "your read coat". The thing that confused me, was that they kept wanting me to take it off whenever I went out, and said I should use it in the house instead. I shrugged it off, as being just another crazy Spanish notion along with not being able to shower after meals or wash you hair when you had your period or mix winter clothes with summer clothes, and stubbornly kept using my coat.
It was first when I many years later learned that bata does not mean coat, but morning gown, that I realized that in their eyes I was walking around the village in my morning gown, just like the village originals. Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 08 November 2011 at 5:29pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5228 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 53 of 53 08 November 2011 at 8:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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@Solfrid C. I don't think I understand that... they had never seen a bubble coat, and they thought it was a morning gown because they heard someone else call it a 'bata'?
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