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| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5249 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes  Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 9 of 16 22 November 2011 at 2:47am | IP Logged | ||
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Hmmm, Linguaphone states that this course covers the Pekin dialect of Mandarin, which, if
Wiki has steered me in the right direction, is the Beijing dialect unfortunately. Thank you for that tip Ari, this has definitely changed my mind on which course I'll use. I think I'll start with Assimil before finding something more thorough. I am kind of tired of the FSI style of teaching, so I want to try something completely different. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6381 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 10 of 16 22 November 2011 at 5:43am | IP Logged | ||
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The Linguaphone course isn't heavily Beijing centric. I think they just mean that they are going to teach the standard as oppose to Cantonese, for example. Assimil isn't Beijing centric either. Personally, I prefer the Linguaphone actors' accents. I found the actors in Assimil to be irritating after a while. But like I said above they are both solid courses and definitely worth your time. The old Colloquial Chinese is also quite good. Edited by newyorkeric on 22 November 2011 at 5:47am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5249 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 11 of 16 22 November 2011 at 6:43am | IP Logged | ||
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Eric, I actually just found out the specific course i'm using is the one from the 1920's, from grammophones. Would you say that it is still useful to me?
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| newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6381 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 16 22 November 2011 at 6:48am | IP Logged | ||
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I would buy Assimil then if I were you. The 1920s course is in traditional characters and IPA. It's not very usable until you want to learn characters.
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| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5249 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 13 of 16 22 November 2011 at 10:01am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks Eric, I ordered Assimil. I think anything to get me started before class, and to do outside of class, will give me an advantage. After this term, Mandarin is going to be my main focus, maybe my major if I end up loving it.
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| simonov Senior Member Portugal Joined 5591 days ago 222 posts - 438 votes Speaks: English | Message 14 of 16 22 November 2011 at 11:04am | IP Logged | ||
Well, well. 1. I wouldn't believe those 2 native Chinese speakers. When I was in Beijing, my Chinese was no better than Prof. Arguelles', but I had no trouble getting people to understand me. I had more trouble trying to understand their English!!! 2. Whatever, the Chinese snippet the professor used in his video about scriptorium has nothing whatsoever to do with Linguaphone. It is a sentence taken from Assimil, lesson 50. Which he once showed himself shadowing in one of his YouTube videos. So much for "linguaphone" pronunciation. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5249 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 15 of 16 22 November 2011 at 7:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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simonov, it's not like I was bashing either the very accomplished Dr. Arguelles nor Linguaphone, just explaining why I was asking this question. I'm obviously posting this because I WANT to use the program. The methodology is really attractive to me. Big time investments deserve research and third-party opinions.
I defend my logic though... Just because the passage was in Assimil, makes it no different than any written Mandarin found anywhere else, besides perhaps that it's easier or more formal. I think it's flawed to say that a person's learned skill does not at all reflect where he learned that skill. It's just as obviously flawed to say that a person's skill lies 100% in the responsibility of the teacher. Clearly, there is a middle ground, which is why I started this thread. It's nice to hear about your experience with your Prof. Edited by BobbyE on 22 November 2011 at 7:12pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5249 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 16 of 16 24 November 2011 at 5:52am | IP Logged | ||
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Sweet. Ordered Assimil chinese with ease yesterday, two-day shipping free as a student on
amazon, received it today actually. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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