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caam_imt Triglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 4863 days ago 232 posts - 357 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2, Finnish Studies: German, Swedish
| Message 1 of 10 23 January 2012 at 3:52pm | IP Logged |
I was checking out the uralic languages and found that the Karelian
language (spoken in Russia) used to be written with the cyrillic script in soviet
times. In this
website I found that they used the usual cyrillic letters plus some of them with
two dots above them, just like in Finnish language (ä, ö and others).
I just wanted to know if there is any way of typing the letters Я and Ю with dots above
them, as the Russian keyboard apparently doesn't allow the addition of diacritics, and
I can't find this characters on the internet (to copy/paste). Other languages that use
the cyrillic alphabet don't seem to use these specific two characters either.
This is just out of boredom heh, but I'm curious that if one day I learn karelian, I
would like to write it in cyrillic just for fun. Any ideas?
Edited by caam_imt on 23 January 2012 at 3:52pm
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 2 of 10 23 January 2012 at 8:10pm | IP Logged |
Aw interesting. But afaiu these were just the projects? You could use this other alphabet instead:)
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| LaughingChimp Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4700 days ago 346 posts - 594 votes Speaks: Czech*
| Message 3 of 10 23 January 2012 at 8:26pm | IP Logged |
They use images. You could try combining diacritics, they can be used with any letter. Combining umlaut is U+0308 ( http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/character.jsp?a=0308 ) but it doesn't seem to combine well with cyrilic. Lowercase looks fine ( я̈ ю̈ ) but it doesn't combinne correctly with uppercase (Я̈ Ю̈). It may work better with other fonts though.
There is also a similar looking combining character, A66F, meant especially for cyrilic, but it doesn't work with my font:
я꙯ ю꙯
Я꙯ Ю꙯
Here are tables of all cyrilic characters:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_characters_in_Unicode
You can use this tool to create your own keyboard layout:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964665
Edited by LaughingChimp on 23 January 2012 at 8:27pm
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 4 of 10 23 January 2012 at 9:37pm | IP Logged |
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do the lower case я and ю with dots look better than this on your comp?
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| LaughingChimp Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4700 days ago 346 posts - 594 votes Speaks: Czech*
| Message 5 of 10 24 January 2012 at 2:29am | IP Logged |
No. It looked fine while writing, but I can't see the dots at all now. If I try to edit the post, they are back there.
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| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5227 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese
| Message 6 of 10 25 January 2012 at 4:41pm | IP Logged |
That's a font issue. Я̈ Ю̈ display perfectly while writing this message; when I hit 'post' a different font will be used, which shows the umlaut superimposed on the letters and not really visible -- just like in your post. Selecting those characters and pushing 'show selection source' (in a Mozilla browser) uses a monospaced font again, which clearly shows the combined characters.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 7 of 10 25 January 2012 at 5:33pm | IP Logged |
I don't see the combined characters in any of the cases :/
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| aloysius Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6241 days ago 226 posts - 291 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: French, Greek, Italian, Russian
| Message 8 of 10 25 January 2012 at 6:05pm | IP Logged |
I can see them when I copy them from the message above and paste them into a MS Word
document.
/aloysius
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