JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6123 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 17 of 36 18 August 2008 at 7:52pm | IP Logged |
Autarkis wrote:
I think I'm going to upload a sound bite with the word "Chuäschwizerisch" in it just for the fun of it. :)
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I would love to hear the sound file. Maybe you could record the same thing in both Swiss German and Hochdeutsch?
Edited by JW on 18 August 2008 at 7:53pm
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Autarkis Triglot Groupie Switzerland twitter.com/Autarkis Joined 5953 days ago 95 posts - 106 votes 4 sounds Speaks: German*, English, French Studies: Italian
| Message 18 of 36 23 August 2008 at 6:30am | IP Logged |
Finally made good on my promise, here you are:
Chuäschwizerisch (Swiss German): http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/sounds/index.asp?sound= 334
Kuhschweizerisch (Hochdeutsch):
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/sounds/index.asp?sound= 335
Hope you like it. :)
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!LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6822 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish
| Message 19 of 36 23 August 2008 at 6:57am | IP Logged |
wow this sounds funny :D
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JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 6123 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian
| Message 20 of 36 26 August 2008 at 11:18am | IP Logged |
I think these recordings nicely show the difference between Swiss German and Hochdeutsch. Even when words are similar, the rhythm and pronunciation are very different. To my ear Swiss German actually has a very pleasant sound.
I wonder if any Hochdeutsch speakers on this forum have ever learned it fluently?
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sprachefin Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5747 days ago 300 posts - 317 votes Speaks: German*, English, Spanish Studies: French, Turkish, Mandarin, Bulgarian, Persian, Dutch
| Message 21 of 36 06 March 2009 at 7:14am | IP Logged |
Eduard wrote:
By the way, the Standard German used in Switzerland is a bit different from the one used in Germany. The 'ß' is not
used at all in Switzerland, and other words have a slightly different spelling. For example: Kommissar (D) ->
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From my experience, all Swiss speak Swiss Standard unless they are uneducated. I find that Swiss Standard is
definitely different, but many Swiss will speak Swiss Standard if you speak Hochdeutsch.
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5767 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 22 of 36 06 March 2009 at 5:28pm | IP Logged |
Grew up in Germany on the border to Switzerland and I can understand the dialects from Northern Switzerland (Basel, Zürich, Bern) with some effort, the same way I can understand Flämisch (but not Standard Dutch).
Even though I'm not Swiss I'd like to rectify the following
>"all Swiss speak Swiss Standard unless they are uneducated"
This might apply to anyone from the German speaking parts of Switzerland, as "Schweizer Hochdeutsch" is the language used in school in those regions. Of course it does not apply to the French or Italian speaking parts of Switzerland!
Even my friend from a bilingual French/German region of Switzerland struggles with German as the teaching language in her school is French, the language used at home her local dialect.
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Earle Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6316 days ago 276 posts - 276 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Norwegian, Spanish
| Message 23 of 36 06 March 2009 at 5:59pm | IP Logged |
I think it was understood from the thread title that the German-speaking Swiss were the only ones being discussed. In the times I've spent in Switzerland, it's always seemed to me that the German-speaking Swiss were much more likely to be competent in French than the Francophones in German. I'm sure there must be German-speakers in Geneva, but I've not found them. Or they wouldn't admit it...
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5767 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 24 of 36 07 March 2009 at 12:58am | IP Logged |
I'm sorry for redundancy. Blame it on me being German that even when things like this should be understood I'd rather be redundant and correct.
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