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formiko
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 Message 9 of 19
17 January 2009 at 3:51pm | IP Logged 
Woodpecker wrote:
Swahili is fun, and hasn't been that difficult so far for me. I'm using Pimsleur (just to get started, there are only 10 lessons) and FSI, along with some online stuff.

I have to disagree with the guy above who said Twi was easier than Swahili. I have an exchange student from Ghana living with me, and Twi is nuts! It has three different pitch levels and a ton of sounds we don't have in English. I can't even correctly pronounce the name of the language. When Sadat says Twi, it sounds like "chi" to me, but every time I say that he just laughs at me.


I still think Twi is a lot easier than Swahili. Swahili has a rather difficult agglutinative verbal system. With no verb conjugations, no noun classes or declensions, and a simple SVO pattern. Twi has more of a "pitch", rather than a tone. And Twi does soud like Ch'wi. It's like a forced "ch" sound. Phonolgy is minor when everything else is easy. :)

Edited by formiko on 17 January 2009 at 3:57pm

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Akipenda Lugha
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 Message 10 of 19
10 March 2009 at 7:52pm | IP Logged 
I've learnt Swahili to basic fluency (maybe not quite the level as defined by this forum, but conversant in any case). I like it alot. I spent 3 months in Kenya where I first made an attempt to begin learning it, then after that trip I spent some time doing fairly intense grammatical study, then just recently I returned to Tanzania for 2 months. In Tanzania I had a teacher and made many efforts to speak in Swahili and it did not take me long to be having basic conversations. I'd definitely recommend learning

And Formiko, it's 'watu wazungu' ;)


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formiko
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 Message 11 of 19
11 March 2009 at 8:56am | IP Logged 
Akipenda Lugha wrote:
I've learnt Swahili to basic fluency (maybe not quite the level as defined by this forum, but conversant in any case). I like it alot. I spent 3 months in Kenya where I first made an attempt to begin learning it, then after that trip I spent some time doing fairly intense grammatical study, then just recently I returned to Tanzania for 2 months. In Tanzania I had a teacher and made many efforts to speak in Swahili and it did not take me long to be having basic conversations. I'd definitely recommend learning

And Formiko, it's 'watu wazungu' ;)



See how confusing that is??? :) I'll take a West African language any day :)
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 Message 12 of 19
11 March 2009 at 4:00pm | IP Logged 
I've been pretty pleased with myself for learning Swahili and French since I want to work in development in Africa. I like to learn a language that has a good utilitarian geographical spread. It would be interesting to learn a West African language. Yoruba has tons of speakers but is concentrated in one country, right? How did you come to speak it?
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 Message 13 of 19
11 March 2009 at 6:13pm | IP Logged 
I have a pretty good footing in Kiswahili but I'm trying to find a way to push it to another level. Anyone know of any longer novels available?

I'm also learning Yoruba and Twi. I'm finding it harder to get on solid footing since I've never learned a tonal language before. Any tips for studying? Thanks.
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 Message 14 of 19
12 March 2009 at 1:52pm | IP Logged 
SallImSayin wrote:
I have a pretty good footing in Kiswahili but I'm trying to find a way to push it to another level. Anyone know of any longer novels available?


Elisi katika nchi ya ajabu

It is an abridged version, but at least you know the content in advance.
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12 March 2009 at 5:04pm | IP Logged 
Gon-no-suke wrote:
SallImSayin wrote:
I have a pretty good footing in Kiswahili but I'm trying to find a way to push it to another level. Anyone know of any longer novels available?


Elisi katika nchi ya ajabu

It is an abridged version, but at least you know the content in advance.


Thanks. I found a .pdf version and I am comparing it with the English.
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 Message 16 of 19
13 March 2009 at 3:35am | IP Logged 
SallImSayin wrote:
I have a pretty good footing in Kiswahili but I'm trying to find a way to push it to another level. Anyone know of any longer novels available?

I'm also learning Yoruba and Twi. I'm finding it harder to get on solid footing since I've never learned a tonal language before. Any tips for studying? Thanks.


Make sure you have tapes or CDs. And it's not tonal like Chinese. It's more of a pitch.
I was understood even though my tones were wrong. (At least in Yoruba, tones were more grammatical. Past tense was marked my a dropping tone, for example.)


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