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| XRomaXAntiguaX Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5912 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Russian | Message 1 of 11 27 March 2009 at 12:03am | IP Logged | ||
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Is the "y" sound at the beginning of the letters Я,Е,Ю,Ё always pronounced (at least when they're stressed)? And are Я,Е and Ё always pronounced like И when they're not stressed? Edited by XRomaXAntiguaX on 27 March 2009 at 12:13am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| 3e4r5t Diglot Newbie Israel Joined 5753 days ago 15 posts - 15 votes Speaks: Russian, Modern Hebrew* Studies: English | Message 2 of 11 27 March 2009 at 11:51am | IP Logged | ||
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Whether they are the first letters of the word or they are stressed, Я,Е,Ю,Ё pronounced like ya,ye,yu and yo. Otherwise they soften the previous letter + add the "a,e,u or o".
For example: терять - t'er'at' (the " ' " is the softener) rather than "tyeryat'" люблю - l'ubl'u rather than "lyublyu" To learn how to pronounce it correctly, you should know well the difference between the soft and the hard letters in Russian. Good luck :) Edited by 3e4r5t on 27 March 2009 at 11:53am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| dlb Triglot Groupie Joined 5787 days ago 44 posts - 52 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek, Italian | Message 3 of 11 27 March 2009 at 2:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've just started playing around with Russian pronunciation a bit and haven't found a good resource for the difference between the hard and soft consonants. I'm looking for something that describes the difference phonetically. From simply listening to sound examples, I can't hear the difference.
Second I'm wondering if the difference between hard and soft consonants is a minimal pair or are they simple two allophones of the same phoneme. An example in English would be the difference between the aspirated "p" in "pit" and the unaspirated "P" in "spit". You would never have a pair of words in English where the semantic difference is dependent only on the "p" being aspirated or not. If they are two allophones of the same phoneme, then I would argue that is less important for the beginner to spend too much time on it because you will still be understood if you don't get it quite right. You can improve your pronunciation accuracy as you progress with other aspects of the language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| 3e4r5t Diglot Newbie Israel Joined 5753 days ago 15 posts - 15 votes Speaks: Russian, Modern Hebrew* Studies: English | Message 4 of 11 27 March 2009 at 11:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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"An example in English would be the difference between the aspirated "p" in "pit" and the unaspirated "P" in "spit". "
This is not the case. It is more like this: T in "tear" is softer than the T in "to" for instance (though it's still bad example). Just listen to Russian speech, and you immediately recognize that differences. It is very easy to notice, very emphasized difference between the soft and hard sounds. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6447 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 6 of 11 28 March 2009 at 4:34am | IP Logged | ||
They're different phonemes. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dlb Triglot Groupie Joined 5787 days ago 44 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: Greek, Italian | Message 7 of 11 28 March 2009 at 1:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for clearing up the phoneme question.
Unfotunately I can't just hear the difference, especially when in most examples the vowel sound also changes. Can someone explain or know of good resource that explains what is happening linguistically. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| snovymgodom Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5733 days ago 136 posts - 149 votes Speaks: English*, Russian | Message 8 of 11 02 April 2009 at 5:36am | IP Logged | ||
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After the hard consonants ж ш ц, the letters е and ё will lose their softness. So же, ше, це sound like жэ, шэ, and цэ respectively.
Also, ё is always stressed and will retain its "yo" pronunciation (except when preceded by a hard consonant). So пошёл roughly sounds like пашол. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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