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| dmg Diglot Senior Member Canada dgryski.blogspot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7019 days ago 555 posts - 605 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Dutch, Esperanto | Message 9 of 15 19 July 2009 at 3:29am | IP Logged | ||
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I would just point out that AJATT is the third hit (for me) on google for the query: 18 months japanese. Adding "sentences" to the query makes it the top hit.
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| OneEye Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6858 days ago 518 posts - 784 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, Taiwanese, German, French | Message 10 of 15 19 July 2009 at 6:50am | IP Logged | ||
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As others have pointed out, it isn't about memorizing a sentence, but about being able to understand it when it comes up for review in your SRS. If you don't know the meaning of every word, how to read it correctly, and how the grammar works in the sentence, you fail the card. Memorizing 10,000 sentences is a monumental task. Getting to understand them is not so bad.
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| ic32987 Groupie United States Joined 6348 days ago 50 posts - 54 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 11 of 15 19 July 2009 at 10:47am | IP Logged | ||
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I've read the bulk of the AJATT website now, as well as the research that motivated his technique. Very good stuff.
This sentence mining idea is incredibly difficult, however, because of the nuances of language. I can understand (via dictionary) every word of a sentence, but I find it incredibly difficult to find sentences I can understand. Newspapers have been the best bet so far. Does it matter at the early stage the content of the sentence, really? In regards to why I didn't find the AJATT website: I didn't Google '18 months' -- because who cares about that time frame? I Googled (Japanese language forums; Japanese language learning; Japanese language resources, etc...) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5743 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 12 of 15 19 July 2009 at 11:24am | IP Logged | ||
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He started with sample sentences from dictionaries. That's probably a good way for you to start to.
A thing I can recommend is getting sentences from movie subtitles. There are dozens of websites around that provide subtitles in every language for every movie. Just pick one you like. Those sentences are easier and shorter than what you find in a newspaper, and lots more fun as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dmg Diglot Senior Member Canada dgryski.blogspot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7019 days ago 555 posts - 605 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Dutch, Esperanto | Message 13 of 15 19 July 2009 at 4:15pm | IP Logged | ||
Well, the time frame was a salient point about the individual and the method you were failing to find. If I'm looking for something on the internet, why would I reduce the information I give google? That's not going to _improve_ my search results to make them more vague. And if it doesn't help you find what you're looking for, then you can expand. A google query only takes about 10s... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5917 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese | Message 14 of 15 19 July 2009 at 4:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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Can we give the issue of faulty googling a rest already? I'm sure s/he gets it.
You can also take sentences out of songs you like, as long as you're aware of potential word order issues and artistic freedom and all that and you're sure that what you're learning is appropriate. Lyrics online aren't always accurate though... But there's great stuff to be found, seriously. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6280 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 15 of 15 19 July 2009 at 6:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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Sentences are more useful, but individual words are easier to memorise. The sooner you can start putting complete sentences together, the better.
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