joni89 Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5811 days ago 6 posts - 6 votes Speaks: English*, Modern Hebrew
| Message 1 of 11 19 July 2009 at 2:52am | IP Logged |
Well really I'm looking for one.
I have taken two years of college Hebrew, been to Israel, finished the entire Rosetta Stone package, listen to
israeli music, watch israeli tv shows...and I still can't finish a newspaper article, or understand most of the things
I see on television.
I think a lot of it has to do with the language itself, I can understand an article in Italian and I have never studied
it, Hebrew is so different and that makes it harder.
But I am wondering what I can do next, right now I have been reading one newspaper article a day in Hebrew
and underlining all the words I don't know and looking them up.
What else can I do to bring me into that next level?
Thanks
PS. I plan on going to israel abroad next year..but im looking for stuff to do until then.
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Kyrie Senior Member United States clandestein.deviantaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5737 days ago 207 posts - 231 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Portuguese
| Message 2 of 11 19 July 2009 at 4:00am | IP Logged |
One thing you can do to those words you don't understand is look them up and create a vocabulary list to study with them. That's what I did with Spanish after I finished all the Pimsleur lessons.
Also, I hate to disappoint you, but Rosetta stone teaches you mainly useless words like 'elephant' or 'dog.' The reason you can't understand an article is because you need a list of COMMON words. The way I learn a language is that I learn basic conversational words, followed by the most common words. Rosetta Stone doesn't provide that for the most part.
So basically, the best thing you can do is read a lot and listen to a lot of Hebrew, then make flashcards and lists of words you don't know. That should get you off of your 'plateau.'
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icing_death Senior Member United States Joined 5869 days ago 296 posts - 302 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 3 of 11 19 July 2009 at 5:07am | IP Logged |
talk to somebody
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6019 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 4 of 11 19 July 2009 at 1:35pm | IP Logged |
As Kyrie says: learn common words. The most common words are vague words: he she it does do... you know, all those words that don't mean anything outside of a sentence.
Concrete vocabulary (elephants, soup etc) is easy to learn, so it's sheer laziness for a teacher that we pay good money to to focus on these -- we can learn them as we go. It's the little words that don't mean anything that we need to actively learn.
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reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6455 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German
| Message 5 of 11 21 July 2009 at 6:15pm | IP Logged |
joni89 wrote:
Well really I'm looking for one.
I have taken two years of college Hebrew, been to Israel, finished the entire Rosetta Stone package, listen to
israeli music, watch israeli tv shows...and I still can't finish a newspaper article, or understand most of the things
I see on television.
I think a lot of it has to do with the language itself, I can understand an article in Italian and I have never studied
it, Hebrew is so different and that makes it harder.
But I am wondering what I can do next, right now I have been reading one newspaper article a day in Hebrew
and underlining all the words I don't know and looking them up.
What else can I do to bring me into that next level?
Thanks
PS. I plan on going to israel abroad next year..but im looking for stuff to do until then. |
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Find a decent intermediate/advanced course. See if Assimil looks hard enough. Two years of Hebrew at college is great but not much when you look at the total number of hours studied. Rosetta Stone helps but uh, it is certainly not enough.
It is very likely you're not recognizing some of the vocabulary you already know. It takes time. Keep watching, try to get an audiobook, a children's classic perhaps and a paper version. Listen and read to it repeatedly, look up words here and there.
Find a decent intermediate grammar and read through it. Gat a cheap visual dictionary but don't torture yourself with too much vocabulary out of context. Do all of this, and then more. Don't look for a single silver bullet.
Eventually you'll get to the point where you'll be able to understand the gist (like with Italian) and that's half the battle.
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Woodpecker Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5819 days ago 351 posts - 590 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Arabic (classical)
| Message 6 of 11 22 July 2009 at 12:07am | IP Logged |
Once/if you're sure you've got your fundamentals down (the stuff Cainntear talked about) you might want to look for a good self-study course specifically for Media Hebrew, since that's the area you're interested in. I have several for Arabic, and though they are all still somewhat over my head, they seem like they will be very useful in the near future.
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!LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6829 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish
| Message 7 of 11 22 July 2009 at 5:01pm | IP Logged |
www.alljapaneseallthetime.com ...it will open your eyes!
Regards,
Ilhan
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joni89 Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5811 days ago 6 posts - 6 votes Speaks: English*, Modern Hebrew
| Message 8 of 11 23 July 2009 at 7:41am | IP Logged |
Thanks for all the replies
Do the tapes that come along with assimil have speakers that speak at a normal talking speed? A lot of programs use really slow speech.
I will say also, I know rosetta stone gets a bad rap on this forum, and it could teach more vocab words, but it gave me an ease of speaking and an understanding of the fundamentals that made certain concepts very easy for me when i learned Hebrew at school.
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