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Just how exactly do you learn Gaelic?

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Cainntear
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 Message 9 of 35
12 October 2011 at 3:49pm | IP Logged 
The Hugo one is long out of print and the rights went back to the author. Scottish Gaelic in 12 Weeks is effectively the "new edition" of the Three Weeks course.

Edited by Cainntear on 12 October 2011 at 3:50pm

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montmorency
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 Message 10 of 35
12 October 2011 at 5:31pm | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:
Or you hire a private teacher who's a massive fan of the Michel Thomas
method to give you lessons over Skype. >hint< >hint< ;-)



I had been going to say that surely there will be a lonely crofter or whatever in some
remote bothy (I got that word from Stewart Lee), with an internet connection, who might
be pleased to relieve his solitude via Skype, with only perhaps the occasional bottle of
single malt requiring to change hands, but perhaps my mythical crofter is already a
member of HTLAL :-)
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DaraghM
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 Message 11 of 35
13 October 2011 at 10:13am | IP Logged 
Agus más mian leat Gaeilge a fhoghlaim, tá neart na cúrsaí.

And if you want to learn Irish, there are plenty of courses. :-)

Edited by DaraghM on 13 October 2011 at 10:13am

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 Message 12 of 35
13 October 2011 at 2:16pm | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:
Or you hire a private teacher who's a massive fan of the Michel
Thomas method to give you lessons over Skype. >hint< >hint< ;-)


Ha ha brilliant, made me laugh my head off, good to see the Scottish entrepreneurial
spirit is not dead.

On a serious note, whilst personally I could never afford private tuition, I will
certainly buy your course if you get the Paul Nobel job, I rate your opinion on
languages quite highly (even if I don't always agree) and look forward to seeing what
you can do.

I've not really got any plans to learn Gaelic, but I think Professor Argüelles makes a
good point when he says that sometimes it's worth learning a language purely because a
good course is available (his example being "El Catlán sin Esfuerzo"), IMO that
certainly also applied to the original MT courses, and hopefully it will apply to yours
too.
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Neil_UK
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 Message 13 of 35
21 October 2011 at 6:04am | IP Logged 
Next year, the mother of all Scottish Gaelic courses will be coming out, and it will be
called 'Say Something In Gaelic', from the makers of 'Say Something In Welsh'. Like the
Michel Thomas Method, 'Say Something In...' is a systematic, all audio, method of
learning the grammatical structure of a language without homework, without memorising
etc.

'Say something in...' also has listening practice to help you understand what you've
learned in fast spoken speech - something the Michel Thomas Method lacks - as well as
daily practice sessions to help you maintain what you've learned until you can speak
effortlessly. After going through the course, you will have no trouble expressing your
everyday thoughts in the language with ease.

I can't wait until 'Say something in Gaelic' is released, as there are no good courses
currently for learning Gaelic on the market right now. Every Gaelic course on the
market revolves around silly dialogues, as if you are somehow going to learn to express
yourself that way. Also, every Gaelic course is incomplete and doesn't teach you the
full grammatical structure of the language. So, finally, Gaelic is going to have a
decent course available, which will be a good step towards making the language more
accessible and hopefully more popular.

Though if Cainntear has a Michel Thomas like method for Gaelic, that's fantastic too.
I'd be interested in that myself at some stage in the future. Gaelic needs better
resources, the current methods on the market are very poor indeed.

If Cainntear can make and release a Michel Thomas Method Gaelic, it'll no doubt do
well.

Edited by Neil_UK on 21 October 2011 at 6:07am

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Cainntear
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 Message 14 of 35
21 October 2011 at 12:13pm | IP Logged 
I hated SaySomethingInWelsh. It wasn't bad per se, but I found it really irritating. It threw difficult stuff in without teaching it, it repeated the easy stuff to death, and there were several fundamental flaws in the ordering of material. Hopefully the Gaelic version will be better, but that depends on the author. Do you know who's doing it?

Edited by Cainntear on 21 October 2011 at 12:20pm

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Neil_UK
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 Message 15 of 35
21 October 2011 at 5:36pm | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:
I hated SaySomethingInWelsh. It wasn't bad per se, but I found it
really irritating. It threw difficult stuff in without teaching it, it repeated the
easy stuff to death, and there were several fundamental flaws in the ordering of
material. Hopefully the Gaelic version will be better, but that depends on the author.
Do you know who's doing it?


Aran from SSIW has mentioned he has contacts in Scotland who teach Gaelic, but I'm not
sure exactly who will be making the course. Maybe you could offer your services to
them?

The thing about SSIW is that it drills you thoroughly on everything. It's slower than
Michel Thomas Method, though, but at least they do listening drills as well as daily
practice sessions, neither of which are done in MT Method.

Still, no one language method is perfect, even MT Method, good as it is.

I would love to see a MT Method (or Paul Noble Method) Gaelic, you do have a market for
it so good luck to you if you've come up with such a method to teach Gaelic. I might
have Skype lessons with you in the future to learn Gaelic (no time for it right now as
too busy with other languages and projects :-( )
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Cainntear
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 Message 16 of 35
21 October 2011 at 9:47pm | IP Logged 
I didn't find the listening sections to be any use whatsoever. Because it was just a series of phrases with no ongoing thread of meaning, they didn't hold my attention....


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