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SmilingStraw Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4911 days ago 35 posts - 37 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Arabic (Written)
| Message 25 of 93 06 December 2011 at 1:41am | IP Logged |
I see. I guess I had it all wrong then.
So is MSA comparable to Latin and the Romance languages, then?
For example, learn Latin, and Spanish and Italian will be easier?
Also, how did you come around learning it? Self study or classes?
Thanks,
SmilingStraw
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| Humdereel Octoglot Groupie United States Joined 4979 days ago 90 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English, Spanish*, Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Written), Turkish, Persian, Urdu Studies: Russian
| Message 27 of 93 07 December 2011 at 2:13am | IP Logged |
The Latin and Romance analogy isn't perfect, since some of the Romance languages are much more different than some of the Arabic dialects, and the dialects are much much closer to MSA than Romance languages are to Latin. However, it's a similar idea, per say.
As for how I learned it, it would be a long story that might not be totally relevant to this thread, so I sent you a PM.
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| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5833 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin
| Message 28 of 93 07 December 2011 at 9:12pm | IP Logged |
Humdereel wrote:
The Latin and Romance analogy isn't perfect, since some of the Romance languages are much more different than some of the Arabic dialects, and the dialects are much much closer to MSA than Romance languages are to Latin. However, it's a similar idea, per say.
As for how I learned it, it would be a long story that might not be totally relevant to this thread, so I sent you a PM. |
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I am always interested in hearing how people have learnt one of the more difficult languages such as Arabic. Do share.
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| KSAKSA Groupie Australia Joined 5146 days ago 65 posts - 99 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Arabic (Gulf)
| Message 29 of 93 08 December 2011 at 10:32am | IP Logged |
^^ me too :)
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| Humdereel Octoglot Groupie United States Joined 4979 days ago 90 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English, Spanish*, Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Written), Turkish, Persian, Urdu Studies: Russian
| Message 30 of 93 08 December 2011 at 11:55pm | IP Logged |
LOL, alright, I'll write my long story soon, but not right now. I want to make sure I have enough to time to elaborate and right now I don't. :-D I actually haven't given all the story to SmilingStraw yet.
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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4890 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish
| Message 31 of 93 09 December 2011 at 8:06am | IP Logged |
I don't know if I like the Latin analogy. People on the street can't read Latin, even if
they already speak a Romance language. MSA, though, is still actively used in the papers,
literature, and tv.
Not that I have any better analogy, mind you.
As for how to learn, short of immersion: most people seem to make multiple attempts,
getting a bit further with each new approach.
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| Humdereel Octoglot Groupie United States Joined 4979 days ago 90 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English, Spanish*, Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Written), Turkish, Persian, Urdu Studies: Russian
| Message 32 of 93 10 December 2011 at 12:13am | IP Logged |
I figured I'd at least start my report on how I learned Arabic, though this is not all of it.
I started learning the language at age 16, however I was not very disciplined at the time. I didn't study more than four hours a week, mostly because I had so much to do that was school related and because it wasn't my only hobby. Now, how did I get interested? For 7th grade, I went to a school that offered Turkish (yes, Turkish), which kindled my interest in other languages. Once I got out of that school, I somehow stumbled upon Arabic. I liked the sound and once I started exploring the script, I was 100% certain that it was a language I wanted to learn (I'd get back to Turkish later, I thought). It took me six months to actually get any materials, so that's when I truly started.
I already had two Arabic-speaking friends (one Iraqi and one Egyptian) before I started learning the language, but my friends proved very supportive and were thrilled that I was interested in their language. I started with MSA, more particularly with learning the script (I used "The Arabic Alphabet"), and mastered that within a few weeks. From there, I started going onto grammar. After this, however, was when I was not as able to dedicate as much time to Arabic. So my first year-and-a-half of Arabic consisted mainly of learning the script, learning vocabulary, and basic conversation. Finally, a six months before turning 18, I got to delve into the grammar with a more composed approach. My first book was "An Introduction to Modern Literary Arabic", and luckily, this proved to be a highly effective book for me (other Arabic students usually end up going through several unsatisfying books before finding their best one). With this, I had gotten a basic grip on Arabic grammar, though I was certainly not finished yet.
To be continued...
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