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| sab15 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5214 days ago 39 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Mandarin, Dutch, Portuguese | Message 1 of 5 05 January 2012 at 5:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hi,
I know that Le can also be used as a direct object when referring to a male instead of Lo: Yo le veo - I see him or I see you (if you is a male) But, what about Les when Les is a group mixed of men and women: Can I say "Yo les veo" in this instance where "les" is "them" (group of men and women) or "you plural" (group of men and women)? Thanks a lot. Steven Edited by sab15 on 05 January 2012 at 5:50pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fiziwig Senior Member United States Joined 4866 days ago 297 posts - 618 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 2 of 5 05 January 2012 at 7:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm still learning Spanish, so I'm not sure, but doing a quick search of an elementary Spanish reader I come up with:
Nosotros les acompanaremos. Despues de una pausa, el preceptor les habló. Él les preguntó si querían comer algo. So apparently the answer is yes. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Merv Bilingual Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5274 days ago 414 posts - 749 votes Speaks: English*, Serbo-Croatian* Studies: Spanish, French | Message 3 of 5 05 January 2012 at 7:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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http://www.amazon.com/New-Reference-Grammar-Modern-Spanish/d p/1444137697/ref=sr_1_1?
ie=UTF8&qid=1325789381&sr=8-1 Chapter 12 of this great book has 12 pages just on le/les and lo/la/los/las. I'm sure there's discussion of this question there. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Camundonguinho Triglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 4750 days ago 273 posts - 500 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Spanish Studies: Swedish | Message 4 of 5 05 January 2012 at 8:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you treat them as ustedes, direct object LES is accepted as ''leísmo de cortesía''. Edited by Camundonguinho on 05 January 2012 at 9:07pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4950 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 5 of 5 08 January 2012 at 1:11am | IP Logged | ||
Just for clarification, Fiziwig, in the last two sentences the "les" in fact have the function of the indirect object, which is how most people will ever learn and see "les" used. So those are not cases of using it as a direct object The first sentence is in fact a use of "les" as a direct object instead of "los", which obviously can be used in that situation. You can't use "los" under any circumstance in the other two sentences. In a very "technical" comment, if you do use "les" as a direct object, it would be to refer to a group of mixed males and females. "Los" would then be a group of exclusive males, and obviously "las" exclusive females. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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