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slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6683 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish, Catalan Studies: English	Message 1 of 5 16 September 2007 at 6:56am \| IP Logged
	I have been looking for drilling techniques through the Forum, but I didn't find any specific thread. My question is: What are the best drilling techniques? What drilling techniques are best for you? When I was a child, I remember that with my Spanish misspellings I repeated aloud or in writing the correct word or phrase. I did the repetitions several times every day and for a week. Sometimes I wrote the corrected part of the word (or sentence) in red and bigger. My idea was to fix the correct expression to a reflex level. People are using flashcards here. They write words and sentences in flashcards software. For example, people are questioning in their native language (L1) and checking if their translation to their target language (L2), aloud or in writing, is right. Maybe listening and repeating aloud slightly different standard phrases can be useful, but I think more active drilling is better. I know there are commercial drilling programs outside, but I think it's better to develop self-made drilling strategies. Any ideas? 1 person has voted this message useful
Wings Senior Member Ireland n/a Joined 6362 days ago 130 posts - 131 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish	Message 2 of 5 16 September 2007 at 7:21am \| IP Logged
	I have started to record my own drills. Previously I made flash cards in order to review them, but I discovered it’s much easier to listen to my mp3s, unfortunately I don’t think this does my accent any good. What I do is. Record the phrase in my native tongue, once, followed by four repeats of my target language Spanish, one more repeat of English, followed finally by one last repeat of Spanish. So it’s: My name’s Padraic: Me llamo Padraic; Me llamo Padraic; Me llamo Padraic; Me llamo Padraic; MY name’s Padraic; Me llamo Padraic. I try not to go over ten minutes. What do you think? 1 person has voted this message useful
slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6683 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish, Catalan Studies: English	Message 3 of 5 16 September 2007 at 1:48pm \| IP Logged
	I think it can be useful. You can write onto the computer basic or important phrases and repeat them. Spanish is a phonetic language and I think its easier than English. As far as I now you can use free online text to speech software. http://www.linguatec.net/onlineservices/voice_reader http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php Copy and paste your sentence, play the software,record it with Audacity and save it like mp3 file. The Spanish voices are good enough. If you use this voices with words or short sentences It will be like real voices. I use this trick from time to time. Maybe you can repeat the Spanish voice shadowing the recording several times. 1 person has voted this message useful
slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6683 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish, Catalan Studies: English	Message 4 of 5 17 September 2007 at 8:59am \| IP Logged
	What drills can be useful for For the learners, drills can: 1-Provide for a focus on accuracy. Increased accuracy (along with increased fluency and complexity) is one of the ways in which a learner's language improves so there is a need to focus on accuracy at certain stages of the lesson or during certain task types. 2-Provide learners with intensive practice in hearing and saying particular words or phrases. They can help learners get their tongues around difficult sounds or help them imitate intonation that may be rather different from that of their first language. 3-Provide a safe environment for learners to experiment with producing the language. This may help build confidence particularly among learners who are not risk-takers. 4-Help students notice the correct form or pronunciation of a word or phrase. Noticing or consciousness raising of language is an important stage in developing language competence. 5-Provide an opportunity for learners to get immediate feedback on their accuracy in terms of teacher or peer correction. Many learners want to be corrected. 6-Help memorisation and automation of common language patterns and language chunks. This may be particularly true for aural learners. 7-Meet student expectations i.e. They may think drilling is an essential feature of language classrooms. For the teacher, drills can: 1-Help in terms of classroom management, enabling us to vary the pace of the lesson or to get all learners involved. 2-Help us recognise if new language is causing problems in terms of form or pronunciation. I have copied and pasted form here. http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/think/methodology/drilling .shtml 2 persons have voted this message useful
Antelope Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5654 days ago 49 posts - 49 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Spanish, Greek	Message 5 of 5 09 July 2009 at 7:34pm \| IP Logged
	Hi, I seem to learn best with drills. I've only just started out so maybe it's too early to tell, but drilling sentences seems to do well for me. I have so fare drilled the first 50 Assimil Italian lessons (I got the idea here). I like it, but I'm starting to struggle with time. Would the way "wings" drills be a good idea to use for the final 55 lessons of Assimil Italian? I have TextAloud with two Italian speakers on it. Seems like a good way to do it, plus I can do everyday things while I'm learning. Would there be any drawbacks to this? Thanks 1 person has voted this message useful

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slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6683 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish, Catalan Studies: English	Message 1 of 5 16 September 2007 at 6:56am \| IP Logged
	I have been looking for drilling techniques through the Forum, but I didn't find any specific thread. My question is: What are the best drilling techniques? What drilling techniques are best for you? When I was a child, I remember that with my Spanish misspellings I repeated aloud or in writing the correct word or phrase. I did the repetitions several times every day and for a week. Sometimes I wrote the corrected part of the word (or sentence) in red and bigger. My idea was to fix the correct expression to a reflex level. People are using flashcards here. They write words and sentences in flashcards software. For example, people are questioning in their native language (L1) and checking if their translation to their target language (L2), aloud or in writing, is right. Maybe listening and repeating aloud slightly different standard phrases can be useful, but I think more active drilling is better. I know there are commercial drilling programs outside, but I think it's better to develop self-made drilling strategies. Any ideas? 1 person has voted this message useful
Wings Senior Member Ireland n/a Joined 6362 days ago 130 posts - 131 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish	Message 2 of 5 16 September 2007 at 7:21am \| IP Logged
	I have started to record my own drills. Previously I made flash cards in order to review them, but I discovered it’s much easier to listen to my mp3s, unfortunately I don’t think this does my accent any good. What I do is. Record the phrase in my native tongue, once, followed by four repeats of my target language Spanish, one more repeat of English, followed finally by one last repeat of Spanish. So it’s: My name’s Padraic: Me llamo Padraic; Me llamo Padraic; Me llamo Padraic; Me llamo Padraic; MY name’s Padraic; Me llamo Padraic. I try not to go over ten minutes. What do you think? 1 person has voted this message useful
slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6683 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish, Catalan Studies: English	Message 3 of 5 16 September 2007 at 1:48pm \| IP Logged
	I think it can be useful. You can write onto the computer basic or important phrases and repeat them. Spanish is a phonetic language and I think its easier than English. As far as I now you can use free online text to speech software. http://www.linguatec.net/onlineservices/voice_reader http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php Copy and paste your sentence, play the software,record it with Audacity and save it like mp3 file. The Spanish voices are good enough. If you use this voices with words or short sentences It will be like real voices. I use this trick from time to time. Maybe you can repeat the Spanish voice shadowing the recording several times. 1 person has voted this message useful
slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6683 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish, Catalan Studies: English	Message 4 of 5 17 September 2007 at 8:59am \| IP Logged
	What drills can be useful for For the learners, drills can: 1-Provide for a focus on accuracy. Increased accuracy (along with increased fluency and complexity) is one of the ways in which a learner's language improves so there is a need to focus on accuracy at certain stages of the lesson or during certain task types. 2-Provide learners with intensive practice in hearing and saying particular words or phrases. They can help learners get their tongues around difficult sounds or help them imitate intonation that may be rather different from that of their first language. 3-Provide a safe environment for learners to experiment with producing the language. This may help build confidence particularly among learners who are not risk-takers. 4-Help students notice the correct form or pronunciation of a word or phrase. Noticing or consciousness raising of language is an important stage in developing language competence. 5-Provide an opportunity for learners to get immediate feedback on their accuracy in terms of teacher or peer correction. Many learners want to be corrected. 6-Help memorisation and automation of common language patterns and language chunks. This may be particularly true for aural learners. 7-Meet student expectations i.e. They may think drilling is an essential feature of language classrooms. For the teacher, drills can: 1-Help in terms of classroom management, enabling us to vary the pace of the lesson or to get all learners involved. 2-Help us recognise if new language is causing problems in terms of form or pronunciation. I have copied and pasted form here. http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/think/methodology/drilling .shtml 2 persons have voted this message useful
Antelope Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5654 days ago 49 posts - 49 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Spanish, Greek	Message 5 of 5 09 July 2009 at 7:34pm \| IP Logged
	Hi, I seem to learn best with drills. I've only just started out so maybe it's too early to tell, but drilling sentences seems to do well for me. I have so fare drilled the first 50 Assimil Italian lessons (I got the idea here). I like it, but I'm starting to struggle with time. Would the way "wings" drills be a good idea to use for the final 55 lessons of Assimil Italian? I have TextAloud with two Italian speakers on it. Seems like a good way to do it, plus I can do everyday things while I'm learning. Would there be any drawbacks to this? Thanks 1 person has voted this message useful