fairyfountain Senior Member Zimbabwe Joined 6136 days ago 254 posts - 248 votes 5 sounds
| Message 17 of 27 06 June 2009 at 7:56pm | IP Logged |
I'm only using courses that I find over the internet right now, and it's working well enough. The only problem is that I have my exams right now, and that my English tutor is not very happy, because I'm doing too much Spanish lol. I'm working fast enough, but I still feel like I should go faster. I'd like to be finished with Spanish 101 already, but if I rush through the courses, I won't memorize anything, so it's no good. I guess I just have to keep working.
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hypersport Senior Member United States Joined 5889 days ago 216 posts - 307 votes Studies: Spanish
| Message 18 of 27 06 June 2009 at 9:58pm | IP Logged |
50 hrs? What's the point? And why are you trying to memorize stuff?
You said you've messed around with Spanish for 5 years and you already have a passive understanding. Then why do you need a course? Get a good book and start reading, should be plenty. And read out loud so you can develop natural sounding speech which will go a long way if you ever try to use the language with natives.
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Lizzern Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5917 days ago 791 posts - 1053 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English Studies: Japanese
| Message 19 of 27 06 June 2009 at 11:38pm | IP Logged |
As someone else said, try Assimil Spanish With Ease. It'll give you a really good grounding and you won't be asked to memorize anything - they'll teach you in better ways. You could complete the course in 50 days, it might be going a little faster than they expect you to but that's fine. It's a fantastic series of courses, it's definitely what I'd do (and do do) to develop a strong base in a language.
Have fun!
Liz
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DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6159 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian
| Message 20 of 27 08 June 2009 at 12:26pm | IP Logged |
Lizzern wrote:
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I strongly recommend you try this, but make sure you use "Espagnol sans peine". The course was originally designed for French speakers, so the translations should be a lot better. The course is structured to suit French speakers, and introduces the subjunctive early. The lesson on faux amis makes a lot more sense in French than in English.
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zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 7008 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin
| Message 21 of 27 12 June 2009 at 9:56am | IP Logged |
fairyfountain wrote:
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I'm downloading the Spanish courses right now, but Michael Thomas tends to make me cringe (there's something about his voice or his teaching method, I swear I can't put my finger on it).
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You are French , then get the French Michel Thomas Spanish. It is played by a natural Spanish speaker with a nice voice and accent based on Michel Thomas recording (well , that's my guess). Worked great with my son.
http://www.harraps-audio.harrap.com/
And I'd advise using Assimil a lot, reading and shadowing the audiotrack, bothe "L'Espagnol" and "Perfectionnement Espagnol". But those 2 won't fit in 50 hours....
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zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 7008 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin
| Message 22 of 27 12 June 2009 at 9:57am | IP Logged |
hypersport wrote:
50 hrs? What's the point? And why are you trying to memorize stuff?
You said you've messed around with Spanish for 5 years and you already have a passive understanding. Then why do you need a course? Get a good book and start reading, should be plenty. And read out loud so you can develop natural sounding speech which will go a long way if you ever try to use the language with natives. |
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If there were one only book to read, that would be Assimil Spanish and its level 2: at least those are designed to teach you core vocabulary and progressively instill grammar into our neurons.
Edited by zorglub on 12 June 2009 at 9:59am
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zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 7008 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin
| Message 23 of 27 12 June 2009 at 10:03am | IP Logged |
fairyfountain wrote:
I want to learn American Spanish anyway, so it's okay :-)
Thanks for the advice, I'll see if I can find it! |
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Don't bother too much abot latino or Spanyard castillan: I started with Latino (Mexican I guess) in Pimsleur, and went further with Assimil, trying to keep the latino pronunciation and rythm, which s not too hard. Assimil's sound track is Spanyard, but very clear. Now there are some idioms that are different, but my Pimslassmil Spanish works everywhere and when not told , they can't guess where I'm from.
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zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 7008 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin
| Message 24 of 27 12 June 2009 at 10:10am | IP Logged |
fairyfountain wrote:
I use the pdfs too, but since my ipod displays the text when I press some button (the lil button in the middle of the circle), I don't print out the pdfs or anything.
Even if French courses for Spanish may be faster-paced, I still have my head set on the American ones. It just makes me feel so good to learn a language thanks to English lol.
I've been thinking more and more in English since I started learning Spanish, which is awesome, and I don't want to lose that :-) |
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I have an (self awarded comment) interesting theory, based on absolutely NO science: when you, a native A speaker and correct X speaker , learn language B through language X, you learn better than through language A. This "is" because the process uses more apropriate circuitry in your brain, and avoids the "translation circuitry", directly associating thought and language.
Of course , this is a petty theory of mine.
But as far as Michel Thomas is concerned, the great advantage of the Spanish fpr French speaker is that the Spanish voice is so much nicer than that of M Thomas (sorry, my taste) and sounds so much more Spanish. Of course Cainntear is gonna tear me.
Edited by zorglub on 12 June 2009 at 10:19am
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