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| couragepiece93 Groupie United States Joined 5776 days ago 77 posts - 78 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian, Latin | Message 1 of 7 06 June 2009 at 1:12am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm having trouble pronouncing the different r + consonant sounds in Norwegian. Can a native speaker clarify how to position the tongue, etc.
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6917 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 7 06 June 2009 at 2:52am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm quite sure you have the sounds in your native (American?) English:
rn - similar to hoRN rd - similar to haRD rt - similar to huRT rs - similar to harSH rl - similar to huRL 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| couragepiece93 Groupie United States Joined 5776 days ago 77 posts - 78 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian, Latin | Message 3 of 7 06 June 2009 at 3:14am | IP Logged | |||||
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They're similar, but I think they're different sounds, at least according to the sources I've been using they are, but I might be wrong.
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| MäcØSŸ Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5817 days ago 259 posts - 392 votes Speaks: Italian*, EnglishC2 Studies: German | Message 4 of 7 06 June 2009 at 7:30am | IP Logged | |||||
They're not the same sound. The Norwegian ones are retroflexes, while the English ones are simple alveolar (apart from the harSH, which a post-alveolar). The difference is that retroflex consonants are pronounced with the tip of the tongue curled up, while alveolar consonants are pronounced with the tip of the tongue against the alveolar ridge. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| laiwai Diglot Groupie SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6850 days ago 66 posts - 71 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 5 of 7 07 June 2009 at 2:37am | IP Logged | |||||
Thus the inclusion of the 'r' i presume. Americans (and others?) tend to pronounce the r retroflexly. What happens is that the tongue dosen't have the time to go from its retroflex position to the alveolar position, making the consonants after the r:s somewhat retroflex as well. That's how I pronounce those letters at least... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| MäcØSŸ Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5817 days ago 259 posts - 392 votes Speaks: Italian*, EnglishC2 Studies: German | Message 6 of 7 07 June 2009 at 8:54am | IP Logged | |||||
In that case they're very similar. I thought the inclusion of the R was because he was referring to British English, where it's not pronounced. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6917 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 7 07 June 2009 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
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As Laiwai have noticed, I took the American retroflex/rhoticised path (because couragepiece93 seemed to be from the States...) and included a capital R (although I forgot to change it in "harsh").
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