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| sab15 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5214 days ago 39 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Mandarin, Dutch, Portuguese | Message 1 of 19 03 November 2011 at 5:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hi,
I'm usually pretty good with knowing when to use ser or estar, but sometimes I'm not so sure. If you want to say: The class is hard, would you say - La clase es dura or La clase esta dura Thanks. Steven Edited by sab15 on 03 November 2011 at 5:20pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kazordoon Bilingual Triglot Newbie Spain Joined 4781 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan*, English Studies: French | Message 2 of 19 03 November 2011 at 6:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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As in "the subject taught in the class is difficult" ?
If this is what you mean, I wouldn't use the adjective "dura" with "la clase". Although you could say "el temario de la clase es duro". 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| sab15 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5214 days ago 39 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Mandarin, Dutch, Portuguese | Message 3 of 19 03 November 2011 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes, I meant the subject. Ternario? I looked it up and it's ternary in English. What definition of ternario are you using?
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6012 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes  Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 4 of 19 03 November 2011 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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It's most likely to be "es", because you're describing the nature of the class.
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| July Diglot Senior Member Spain Joined 5274 days ago 113 posts - 208 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishB2 Studies: French | Message 5 of 19 03 November 2011 at 8:38pm | IP Logged | ||
El Temario - The Syllabus 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| outcast Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member China Joined 4950 days ago 869 posts - 1364 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English*, German, Italian, French, Portuguese, Mandarin Studies: Korean | Message 6 of 19 04 November 2011 at 1:05am | IP Logged | ||
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Ah, the famous es vs estar for condition vs essence.
If the class is designed to be difficult by nature or essence, then use "es". If the class is difficult (a current condition), but it wasn't always so, then use "estar". Another example: Juan es loco - Juan is crazy (always has been, it's his nature) Juan está loco - Juan is crazy (a current state or condition, that wasn't always so) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Xerxes Quadrilingual Octoglot Newbie NetherlandsRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4771 days ago 10 posts - 12 votes Speaks: Dutch*, Danish*, SpanishC2* Studies: Biblical Hebrew*, French, English, German, Italian, Latin Studies: Ancient Greek, Turkish | Message 7 of 19 04 November 2011 at 4:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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You are looking for es, not estar.
If I were you (maybe you already do this by nature) I'd try to use different ways of phrasing your thoughts instead of using ''boring'' verbs such as ser or esta ;). What about 'La clase me cuesta mucho.' 'Las lecciones suelen ser un coñazo.' 'Las clases me dejan hecho polvo.' I don't know, I am sure you can find of many more ways! Just to sort of keep it interesting and the Spanish ''feeling'' there. (English) People and scholars tend to say that English is the language with by far the most extensive amount of vocabulary... Please do take that with a grain of salt ;). Woah slightly off-topic :P. Hope I answered your question! Have a nice day, Xerxes 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5227 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 8 of 19 07 November 2011 at 3:26am | IP Logged | ||
Exactly. Even an easy class can be hard any given day; in that case, in English you would say "the class is unusually easy today" because if you don't, you will be implying the class is like that every day -> it's an essential aspect* of the class, thus the verb yer looking for is 'es'. *some other aspects may not have the same degree of perceived essentialness across languages, so beware when you resort to this type of reasoning. Edited by mrwarper on 07 November 2011 at 3:29am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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