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| WentworthsGal Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4888 days ago 191 posts - 246 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish, Spanish | Message 1 of 12 30 November 2011 at 11:10am | IP Logged | ||
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Hi, I've been reading a Swedish novel and am coming accross the words nån and nåt. I couldn't find them in the dictionary - maybe because it's a small dictionary or maybe I just didn't see them because it was quite late and I was quite tired lol. But I was wondering what they meant and whether they were a shortening of the words något and någon? Also, if this is the case, what other words get shortened like this? So I know then to look out for them and can realise what they mean when I do see them... Edited by WentworthsGal on 30 November 2011 at 11:11am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6582 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 2 of 12 30 November 2011 at 11:32am | IP Logged | ||
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They're actually "någon" and "något", yeah. Look up these words and you'll find them. The words are usually pronounced "nån" and "nåt", so some people write them this way, though I personally prefer if one adds apostrophes when one does so: "nå'n" and "nå't".
Other words that get shortened: Sådan -> sån/så'n Sådant -> sånt/(så'nt) Staden -> stan/sta'n På honom, ta honom, ge honom, etc. -> på'n, ta'n, ge'n Till henne, få henne, se henne etc. -> till'na, få'na, se'na Förrän -> förns "Sån", "sånt" and "stan" are quite common in everyday text, as well as "nån" and "nåt", with or without the apostrophes. The other ones you'll rarely see except in quotes trying to emphasise the colloquialness of the language. But the pronunciations are quite common. Edited by Ari on 30 November 2011 at 11:43am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| WentworthsGal Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4888 days ago 191 posts - 246 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish, Spanish | Message 3 of 12 30 November 2011 at 11:42am | IP Logged | ||
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Ah thanks Ari, I thought that could be the case :o) thank you for confirming it for me :o) thank you also for the apostrophe information - I don't think I've come across any Swedish with apostrophes yet so that was very informative :o)
Thanks for the extra bits too! :o) I need to take a note of them now so I don't forget them lol :o) Edited by WentworthsGal on 30 November 2011 at 11:49am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5599 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 4 of 12 30 November 2011 at 1:09pm | IP Logged | ||
I also encounter often sen instead of the full form sedan (then). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| WentworthsGal Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4888 days ago 191 posts - 246 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish, Spanish | Message 5 of 12 30 November 2011 at 2:12pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ah, I encountered sen last night but was thinking it might have been some form of late, later etc, I shall have another look today :o) thanks! :o)
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| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5453 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 6 of 12 30 November 2011 at 4:55pm | IP Logged | ||
Depends on the context: http://sv.bab.la/lexikon/svensk-engelsk/sedan http://sv.bab.la/lexikon/svensk-engelsk/sen Språkrådet: Sedan eller sen? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| WentworthsGal Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4888 days ago 191 posts - 246 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish, Spanish | Message 7 of 12 30 November 2011 at 5:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Brilliant, thanks Tractor :o)
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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6909 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 8 of 12 30 November 2011 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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In speech, some consonants tend to disappear in general and in certain positions. G and D are typical:
någon - nån något - nåt morgon - morron idag - ida jag - ja måndag etc. - månda eftermiddag - eftermidda i måndags etc. - i måndas i eftermiddags - i eftermiddas all adjectives ending in -ig: trevlig, tidig, lycklig etc. - trevli, tidi, lyckli comparatives: trevligare, tidigare, lyckligare - trevliare, tidiare, lyckliare med - me sedan - sen tidning - tining By the way, in speech there should really be no confusion between sen (=sedan) and sen (as in "late"), since they're not pronounced the same (short and long vowel, respectively). 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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