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rippletoad
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12 December 2011 at 9:59pm | IP Logged 
What are some less commonly studied dead languages with a good enough body of information to learn from, and a fairly interesting history?
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Shunsen
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12 December 2011 at 11:34pm | IP Logged 
Coptic isn't completely dead (according to Wikipedia about 300 native speakers), but it is used for liturgical
purposes only and it's history is definitely interesting. I'm not sure about learning material though, but Gothic or
Phoenician sound very intriguing to me.
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zyz
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12 December 2011 at 11:50pm | IP Logged 
Classical Nahuatl (language of the Aztecs) has a decently sized literary corpus. There are even some surviving pre-Columbian codices. I know there's at least one introductory book in English, probably more material in Spanish.

The extant body of works in Classical Chinese is gargantuan and spans a huge period of time and many regions.
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Cabaire
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13 December 2011 at 12:23am | IP Logged 
I have studied Latin, Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew and Sanskrit, which are certainly no "less commonly studied".
In my personal library are also many books about Sengoidelc (Old Irish), Syriac (an Aramaic language) and Egyptian Hieroglyphics, to all of whom I would like to dedicate myself when the time comes. These may be called "less commonly studied".
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Hampie
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13 December 2011 at 12:52am | IP Logged 
Shame be it spoke I not of Akkadian, a language that was spoken and written over a time period of roughly 2000
years; it is the oldest attested semitic language and morphologically somewhat conservative albeit phonetically
very, very dumbed down due to a Sprachbund with Sumerian. Thus it has lost many of the hard-to-make throat
sounds merely keeping a pair of three emphatic consonants. Q, ṣ and ṭ, of those I’d say that the ṭ is the hardest
one to make. There consonants were probably ejectives [k’], [s’], &c. &c. but many scholars now day pronounce
them as in Arabic, that is a far back velar k, and pharyngalized ts for ṣ and t for ṭ. Some people pronounce them k,
ts and t.

The corpus of Akkadian texts is huge and vast, and due to the durable material the scribes in Mesopotamia chose
to write on much of it is actually still surviving into this very day, buried in the sand of Iraq or taken to European
museums. There are all kinds of literature, hymns, epics, scientific, letters, endless bookkeeping records,
contracts, &c. &c. you name it.

For Akkadian there are plenty of material, nowhere anywhere near Latin, Greek, Hebrew, Sanskrit or Arabic — but
mores than many other dead languages. Recently a dictionary project called the Chicago Assyrian Dictionary was
completed and that thing is huge, 21 volumes and they’re big as atlases all of them.

The book that I’ve heard the best about and personally likes most is Huenergard’s Grammar of Akkadian, which is
a fat green book (and an accompanying key sold separately) that has everything you need to begin your studies,
including Akkadian-English vocabulary, sign list, paradigms and a funny English-Akkadian vocabulary. Other books
are Teach Yourself Complete Babylonian, though it’s entirely in latin letters, and Introduction to Akkadian which
has a pretty thing format and very shallow grammatical explanations. A Manual of Akkadian is a book that uses an
inductive method and throws you right into the first paragraph of Hammurabi though I would not suggest using
that as a sole book for self learning because it has no key and unless you can get help from somewhere it will make
you totally lost in space.
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fiziwig
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13 December 2011 at 12:53am | IP Logged 
There's a lot of material and textbooks for Pali, compared to most of the other obscure dead languages anyway. Plus there's the advantage that all the material is all in the Roman alphabet.
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rippletoad
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13 December 2011 at 2:45am | IP Logged 
Thanks. The more obscure ones seem like they don't have much corpus at all. I don't know if I want to try tackling any of those yet because I'm rather busy, but when time comes I'll try.

For some reason, I've always found the Indo-European languages with sigmatic nominatives (that is, the languages that have a lot of nominatives that end with -s, -as, -is, -us, etc) pretty cool. I think they are, for the lack of a better word, badass. Does anyone else feel that way? Too bad not a lot of them are around anymore.

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Chung
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13 December 2011 at 3:27am | IP Logged 
rippletoad wrote:
For some reason, I've always found the Indo-European languages with sigmatic nominatives (that is, the languages that have a lot of nominatives that end with -s, -as, -is, -us, etc) pretty cool. I think they are, for the lack of a better word, badass. Does anyone else feel that way? Too bad not a lot of them are around anymore.


No. Don't know what you're talking about. :-P

On a related note, it seems that you would love using Latvian and Lithuanian. Their not being dead would disqualify them from your consideration but at the least they aren't frequently studied by outsiders.


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