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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6555 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 1 of 27 05 February 2012 at 8:40am | IP Logged | ||
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It seems like I meet a pretty high percentage of smokers on my travels, but none of my language partners are smokers. I'm curious to see if polyglots are less likely to be smokers than non-polyglots, so I've started this poll. The question is "I have learned a foreign lang to fluency as an adult and I", and the answers "smoked" or "didn't smoke". Let me qualify this. I'd only like responses from people who have reached fluency (lets call it B2 here) in a foreign language as an adult. Please don't vote if you haven't reached this level. And by smoking, I mean that you smoked tobacco on a regular basis for the duration of your language learning period. I'm not talking about pot. I'm not talking about someone who smoked once a month at parties. I'm not talking about someone who took up smoking after learning the language. Etc. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Kisfroccs Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5414 days ago 388 posts - 549 votes Speaks: French*, German*, EnglishC1, Swiss-German, Hungarian Studies: Italian, Serbo-Croatian | Message 2 of 27 05 February 2012 at 11:28am | IP Logged | ||
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Je fume de temps en temps, en allemand on appelle ça un "Genussraucher", environ 1 à 3 cigarettes par jour. Si je fais la fête, je peux fumer entre 1 et 2 paquet par soir. Mais je ne vois pas ce que ça avoir avec apprendre une langue... Si j'étudie, à la bibliothèque par exemple, ou chez moi, après quelques heures, je sors, je vais fumer avec des amis une deux cigarettes, on s'échange, on parle... (je précise que je suis encore aux études).
En Suisse, j'ai l'impression qu'on fume relativement beaucoup. Si je pars avec un groupe d'amis, les gens qui ne fument pas sont plutôt en minorité. Moyenne d'âge des amis : 24 ans, je dirais. La fumée dans les lieux publics (restos, boîtes etc) a été interdite en janvier 2009, et dans les trains en 2006. Je ne fume pas de joint, bien que je connais pas mal d'amis qui le font. Voilà. Kisfröccs Translation in English : I smoke scarcely, in German we call it a "Genussraucher", 1 to 3 cigarette a day. If I party, then I can smoke 1 or 2 packet a night, but I don't see what it has to do with learning a language.... If I studie, for example in the library, after a few hours I go out, smoke with friends, we talk about what we learned etc. (I'm still studying). I have the impression that in Switzerland, smoking is relatively common. If I go out with friends, the percent of smoker is higher than the percent of no smoker. The average age of my friends is around 24 (all have at least one or 2 degree). Smoking was forbidden in public places in 2009 (restaurant, clubs etc) and it has been forbidden earlier in the trains, 2006. I don't smoke marijuana, but I know a lot of friends who do it. Kisfröccs Edited by Kisfroccs on 10 February 2012 at 11:18am 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6555 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 3 of 27 05 February 2012 at 11:36am | IP Logged | ||
fyi - global smoking rate is about 17%
There may be no relationship at all; I just want to see if the percentage is lower on this forum, as has been my personal experience while traveling. If the percentage is much lower than 17% here, maybe we can speculate as to the reasons. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Kisfroccs Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5414 days ago 388 posts - 549 votes Speaks: French*, German*, EnglishC1, Swiss-German, Hungarian Studies: Italian, Serbo-Croatian | Message 4 of 27 05 February 2012 at 11:52am | IP Logged | ||
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OFS - statistiques 2007 je ne pense pas que l'OFS ait fait une statistique ces dernières années à part 2007, mais ce serait intéressant de voir si cela a évolué ou non (interdiction de fumer dans les lieux publics en 2009 dans la plupart des cantons).
Office fédéral de la santé publique - Enquête suisse sur le tabagisme. Sélectione le premier lien, "la consommation de tabac dans la population suisse de 2001 à 2010". Le taux se trouve actuellement autour des 27% (si je me trompe pas) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6384 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 5 of 27 05 February 2012 at 1:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you're going to post in another language, please provide a translation in English.
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| newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6384 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 27 05 February 2012 at 1:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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I imagine the reason is that in most countries educated people smoke the least.
Some statistics for the US: Education and percentage who smoke: 0--12 yrs (no diploma) 26.4 High school graduate 25.1 Some college (no degree) 23.3 Associate degree 19.7 Undergraduate degree 11.1 Graduate degree 5.6 Edited by newyorkeric on 05 February 2012 at 1:49pm 8 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| espejismo Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5056 days ago 498 posts - 905 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Greek, Azerbaijani | Message 7 of 27 05 February 2012 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | ||
I wonder if it's the same in other countries? I don't think there's a similar correlation in Russia. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6442 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 8 of 27 05 February 2012 at 6:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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I don't smoke in regular life.
I don't smoke while learning a language, either. I voted no. 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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