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tractor
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 Message 9 of 27
05 February 2012 at 6:43pm | IP Logged 
espejismo wrote:
newyorkeric wrote:
I imagine the reason is that in most countries educated people smoke
the least.

Some statistics for the US:


I wonder if it's the same in other countries?

It's said to be the same here in Norway. Educated people are healthier: they smoke less, eat healthier, exercise more
and live longer.
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schoenewaelder
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 Message 10 of 27
05 February 2012 at 7:10pm | IP Logged 
I think it may be that it is now quite rare for young educated people in the anglo-saxon countries to smoke, while it is still perfectly normal in most of Europe (at least Germany, France, Spain, Italy) and presumably elsewhere. It was actually one of my biggest culture shocks.
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atama warui
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 Message 11 of 27
05 February 2012 at 9:45pm | IP Logged 
I smoke around 40 cigarettes a day. As far as I can tell, there've been no negative effects on my English learning. I'm now tackling Japanese, and you have to also be aware of the upsides of smoking - it relaxes and helps you focus.
It's not important if the downsides otherwise outweight the upsides. Let's stay ontopic.
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hrhenry
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 Message 12 of 27
05 February 2012 at 9:59pm | IP Logged 
I learned a language to fluency while I was a heavy smoker. I learned another language to fluency well after I quit smoking.

I don't think there's any relation at all between language learning and smoking. It's down to other life factors.

R.
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ChristopherB
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 Message 13 of 27
06 February 2012 at 12:09am | IP Logged 
I know this isn't probably what was meant by "smoking", but I've smoked marijuana regularly for about 4-5 years and quit just recently as it was messing totally with my productivity and motivation. It's not to say marijuana made me lazy; rather, I was lazy when I smoked marijuana. I love the stuff, really, more so than alcohol and a damnside more than cigarettes, but I had to stop because I would just never get anything done. Not to mention the money...

Edited by ChristopherB on 06 February 2012 at 12:17am

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newyorkeric
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 Message 14 of 27
06 February 2012 at 3:44am | IP Logged 
espejismo wrote:
newyorkeric wrote:
I imagine the reason is that in most countries educated people smoke the least.

Some statistics for the US:


I wonder if it's the same in other countries?
I don't think there's a similar correlation in Russia.


Yes, it's true in Russia, too. I found some older statistics on it, 1994 - 2003.

Less than secondary: about 70%
Completed secondary: about 60%
Completed higher: about 50%

I knew smoking was common in Russia but these numbers are amazingly high.

Edited by newyorkeric on 06 February 2012 at 5:16am

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espejismo
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 Message 15 of 27
06 February 2012 at 5:35am | IP Logged 
newyorkeric wrote:
espejismo wrote:
newyorkeric wrote:
I imagine the reason is that in most countries educated people smoke the least.

Some statistics for the US:


I wonder if it's the same in other countries?
I don't think there's a similar correlation in Russia.


Yes, it's true in Russia, too. I found some older statistics on it, 1994 - 2003.

Less than secondary: about 70%
Completed secondary: about 60%
Completed higher: about 50%

I knew smoking was common in Russia but these numbers are amazingly high.


I found the following statistics published on the Word Health Organization website:

Key Findings
• 39.1 % of Russians (43.9 million) were currently smoking tobacco: 60.7 % of men and 21.7 % of women.
• Russians with more education (secondary 41.3 %, high 38.1 %) smoked more than those with a lower education level (primary 18.0 %.)


source: Russian Federation releases its Global Adult Tobacco Survey data (9 November 2010)
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newyorkeric
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 Message 16 of 27
06 February 2012 at 5:38am | IP Logged 
It's interesting that the numbers have changed so much in the last 10 years or so.

The numbers that I cited are from here.

Edited by newyorkeric on 06 February 2012 at 6:23am



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