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How to make the most of one hour a day

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Brun Ugle
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 Message 9 of 13
07 February 2012 at 9:01am | IP Logged 
Although I use Anki to some extent myself I don't think it is for everyone, and if I had only a hour a day, I don't think I'd use it at all. I think both your German and Dutch are beyond the stage where you need any artificial means of learning vocabulary. Simply read and listen as much as you can, which is what you seem to be doing. Your Spanish on the other hand seems to be more at a beginner level. I don't think Anki is really necessary at this level either. Any beginner textbook will give you enough repetition of vocabulary for you to memorize it without Anki and most of that vocabulary is going to be fairly important words, so your time is better spent in using a textbook or course. Since you like Assimil, that is your best choice.

I think also, if you consider carefully, you might find that you have a bit more than an hour. You probably have some bits of time here and there that you can use. Keep a paperback novel in your coat pocket, or have some audiobooks on your mp3-player ready for such times. You might have time at lunch or when traveling/commuting for example. Also you might be able to cut down on things like native language TV and reading (and of course HTLAL) and replace them with German and Dutch. Then you could leave your hour a day for Spanish.

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garyb
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 Message 10 of 13
07 February 2012 at 12:59pm | IP Logged 
I'm not a massively experienced learner, so don't take this as advice, but in an ideal world: for beginner to intermediate I'd work through an Assimil lesson or similar (as that involves listening, reading, learning new words and grammar, and speaking) and then spend the remaining time talking, with a native if possible. For advanced I'd skip the lesson and just talk to one or more natives for an hour.

Of course it's not an ideal world, and most days I don't have access to native speakers at any given moment, a consecutive hour to dedicate to one language, or even time at home where I can speak aloud, so I have to compromise and use "better than nothing" methods like reading, writing, and self-talk.
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James29
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 Message 11 of 13
08 February 2012 at 1:00am | IP Logged 
ElBrujo, you asked: "Have you found LR to significantly improve your listening comprehension or any other aspect of your L2?"

Yes, I find LR is helping my listening comprehension. That is the primary reason I am doing it now. I find the weakest part of study courses like FSI and Assimil are listening comprehension. The "problem" with LR type things is that they seem to be ineffient in the sense that you really need to sit for a long time. I often think that I would get so much more out of an hour of FSI than an hour of LR-ing, which is true, but I simply cannot do FSI every day. I hope that makes sense.

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geoffw
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 Message 12 of 13
09 February 2012 at 11:10pm | IP Logged 
zenmonkey wrote:
LangOfChildren wrote:
With practice, you can easily memorize around 600-700 words per hour.


600 words an hour? In a foreign language!

What a giant of learning you must be, I alas am not endowed with such a prodigious memory and must settle for a mediocre 100, on a good day, after more study than the allotted hour. Or I have not practiced enough.

My candle is a weak spluttering thing next to such a torch that lights the night.
I'm off to spend my hour otherwise.

It depends on the level and on the day, I think I'd be lucky if I got an hour every day. Early, I'd spend it listening and interacting in simple dialogues early on. Sprinkle in vocabulary, as an intermediate, and then move on. Advanced, a book here. And there dessert on Tuesdays.

Every meal, so fine it might be, would taste the blandest salad if it was the same thing every day, day in, day out.


You understood this refers to words of the novel as complete sentences, not 600-700 distinct unknown vocabulary words, right?

My previous sentence had 20 words, so you'd just need to memorize 30-35 such sentences, which will include tons of common words like "the." If you could memorize my sentence in 2 minutes, you're on pace. I don't do this myself, but I don't see why it wouldn't be doable.
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FuroraCeltica
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 Message 13 of 13
10 February 2012 at 10:21am | IP Logged 
I think its too simple to say what would you do in one hour. The question is where you spend that hour. For example, if you commute to work 1 hour a day, its easy to listen to an audio book, whereas if your hour a day is in a busy family home, it might be more appropriate to do something else


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