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| Fildzan Diglot Newbie Croatia Joined 4706 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English Studies: German | Message 1 of 7 20 February 2012 at 12:35am | IP Logged |
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Well, probably the thing that people are the most concerned about when starting to learn
a language is the time it takes from being a beginner to feeling comfortable in a normal communication. I was wondering how much have you guys learned after a month, than after two months etc. and which way did you learn, was it immersion style, self study or classroom style learning? How long it took you to be satisfied with how much you know? What do you think is the shortest possible period to learn moderatly difficult languge? Up until now, I have only learned English, but it feels as if it has learned itself, I hardly had to put any effort into it so I can`t use it as a reference for future studies. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 2 of 7 20 February 2012 at 3:25am | IP Logged |
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It probably depends on the language and how quickly it comes to you.
I can learn Spanish a lot faster than I can learn Korean. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6126 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 3 of 7 20 February 2012 at 4:38am | IP Logged |
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You remind me. At the language school I go to, there's this guy, he looked pretty old so I asked -- turns out he's been studying Japanese continuously since the Ford Administration. That's over 30 years.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 4 of 7 20 February 2012 at 4:54am | IP Logged |
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I learned 70% of the needed grammar in two months of very intensive Finnish study. I'm very passionate about this language. It took me almost two years to reach "basic fluency".
There's currently a 6 week challenge on. http://6wc.learnlangs.com/ Some extremely devoted learners are learning about as much as I did back then. Have a look at the various logs :) It's not necessary to set yourself very specific goals from the beginning. Depending on the techniques and time spent, you'll be where you should be. Don't compare your results to other learners - compare the efforts. Do you actually need to use the language though? I myself am sort of addicted to "natural" learning - see ajatt.com, antimoon.com. I watch a lot of football, hehe. I love learning the way I'm doing it but I don't really travel much so I have no need for active skills right now. Welcome, btw:))) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5382 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 5 of 7 20 February 2012 at 5:30am | IP Logged |
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This kind of question is one we would all like to have answered. However, the terms we
use to word it -- comfortable, normal, know, difficult, fluent, etc. -- have variable meanings. Learners all have different aptitudes in different aspects of learning and they all lead different lives. There is simply no easy answer. If some kind of answer could be given, it would have to take a large number of factors into consideration. I am currently taking part in a 30-day, 45-hour Finnish challenge with a few other forum members. So, during this month, I will "only" be able to study for 45 hours. Depending on what I do and what I focus on, I will be more or less advanced as another person in some aspects or in others, and if another person were studying for a different number of hours, the results would differ. They'd differ again if they had help from better teachers, if their lives were more or less stressful outside of their language studies, if their motivation were different, etc. The list of factors is endless. However, we can somewhat quantify the difficulty level of various languages. In my case, I can say with some confidence that learning Japanese took me about 3-4 times longer than Spanish. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| fiziwig Senior Member United States Joined 4866 days ago 297 posts - 618 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 6 of 7 20 February 2012 at 6:23am | IP Logged |
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I'm at a little over a year now on Spanish and I'm just now reaching basic fluency. I can listen more easily than speak because I've spent a lot of time watching movies in Spanish and listening to Spanish radio and podcasts. I'm still not exactly "comfortable" with conversing in Spanish. I have to listen very closely and carefully, and speaking is a bit of a struggle, with long pauses while I search for the right word, and embarrassing gaps where I just simply don't know the words I need.
I can easily picture spending another two or three years just to get fairly comfortable with the language. And for the record, I'm 67 years old. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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