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| Al-Malik Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member United Kingdom arabicgenie.com Joined 7137 days ago 221 posts - 294 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, German*, Spanish, Arabic (Written), Dutch, French, Arabic (classical) Studies: Mandarin, Persian | Message 9 of 22 25 May 2007 at 7:03am | IP Logged | |||||
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Try to get the old two volume L'Arabe Sans Peine. You won't be disappointed (if you are looking for a course that teaches MSA).
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| zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 7003 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin | Message 10 of 22 25 May 2007 at 6:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
Are you sure, as said hee previously, (above) and as I was told, it has been said not to be good. Too far from Assimil's principles. Do you have a personal experience ? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 7003 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin | Message 11 of 22 25 May 2007 at 6:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
Which do you think it could be ? Arabic PDQ - Arabic language course. The perfect introduction to Arabic for holiday makers. A combination of CDs and a course book will teach you all the phrases you need. Level: Beginner to Intermediate Words: 0 - 500 Contents: 4 CDs 1 Book Arabic from English Format: CD Price £29.95 More Info Buy ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------- Arabic Complete Course - Arabic language course. The cornerstone of Linguaphone language learning. Ideal for the beginner who is serious about learning Arabic. Level: Beginner to Advanced Words: 0 - 2000 Contents: 10 CDs 6 Books Arabic from English Format: CD Price £279.90 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7018 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 12 of 22 26 May 2007 at 2:18am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm fairly sure that Ardaschir would have meant the full Linguaphone course rather than the PDQ version.
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| Al-Malik Bilingual Heptaglot Senior Member United Kingdom arabicgenie.com Joined 7137 days ago 221 posts - 294 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German*, Spanish, Arabic (Written), Dutch, French, Arabic (classical) Studies: Mandarin, Persian | Message 13 of 22 26 May 2007 at 3:49am | IP Logged | |||||
Yes, I do - I used tome 2 of L'Arabe Sans Peine and it really helped me to make a huge leap. Actually I prefer this Assimil course to others from the Assimil series. This is mainly due to the fact that in L'Arabe Sans Peine we are following the same person through the lessons. He makes the acquaintance of an Arab man on his flight to an undefined Arab country and subsequently meets his family, visits Souqs, a mosque, gets a tour of his house etc. Many useful situations that are very relevant if you plan to make a visit to the Arab world. The course also manages to transmit a lot of culture through a few quotes from poets and inclusion of the 1st Sura of the Quran for instance. The language used in this course is Modern Standard Arabic and therefore will differ considerably from anything that is spoken on the streets in any specific country. However, personally I discovered that it is much easier to acquire dialects with a sound understanding of MSA. I would actually like to know of specific criticisms of the old Assimil course. So far I have not seen any. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Zorndyke Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6961 days ago 374 posts - 382 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Czech | Message 14 of 22 26 May 2007 at 4:11am | IP Logged | |||||
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Actually there are three versions of the course:
the new one with 77 lessons (one vol.) the old one with 100 lessons (two vol.) and the very old one with just 42 lessons (one vol.) And since the "Arabic With Ease" course is the one with 42 lessons I assume that the criticism of NPR concern this very course and not the newer ones. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| zorglub Pentaglot Senior Member France Joined 7003 days ago 441 posts - 504 votes 1 sounds Speaks: French*, English, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin | Message 15 of 22 29 December 2008 at 6:26am | IP Logged | |||||
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm changing my mind. After using Pimsleur Arabic 1 and 2 , then increasing my understanding of (Eastern) Arabic with the somewhat different but very close Egyptian Arabic course (Michel Thomas arabic" by Jane Wightwick, I needed to increase my vocabulary and usage. I was not completely satisfied with Rice's Eastern Arabic. Nor was I by Wightwick and Gafaar's Arabic (Egyptian) on the move. I was horrified by Assimil's Arabic because of its so unnaturally slow sound track, and the complexity of the Arabic taught. I was seduced by the great Linguaphone soundtrack. I proceeded with Linguaphone but I progressively met difficulties , peaking around lesson 14. Many grammatical points are'nt duely explained and I could not understand why some endings where used for example. Besides, Linguaphone books are not convenient, you have to use 2 at a time. Therefore I had another look at Assimil. I speeded up the sound track with Audacity. And I used the book. They explain the grammar very smartly everywhere it needs to. I now understand what I could not understand in Linguaphone. But they teach very classic Arabic with oldish endings that are not used in Linguaphone and that I never hear when listening to Arabic TV like Al Jazeera. They say they will remove the oldish endings later in the course, after lesson 28 and more later on. Still , their final lesson has some oldish endings , not found in Linguaphone and not heard on Al Jazeera. I understand they try and have me understand the logic of the language. But it's quite difficult lo learn a language that changes along the course, even though getting simpler. But I am now caught by the Assimil course , bringing hosts of new words progressively, and smartly infusing new grammar as painlessly as possible. It helps me understand better the Minguaphone course and I think now I reached Assimil lesson 24 out of 77, I'm going to stick to it if I can, and then go back to Linguaphone whose sound track sounds much more like Arabic. After Assimil, I suppose I won't have the grammatical difficulties I first met. What are the results so far ? I can speak with a wider vocabulary but my Arabic is a mix of my well inprinted Eastern Arabic (made with Pimsleur) , some Egyptian Arabic mande in Michel Thomas and Modern standard Arabic. It sounds weird but Arabs understad me. I still lack a lot of vocabulary to understand correctly. For the moment being, I think Assimil Arabic is not as bad as I thought. I still have difficulties with the sound track , but it teaches the structure and vocabulary smartly. I'm not learning the writing, but it's printed so small it probably is difficult. Another problem is they don't indcate the tones with bold caracters, as they use to in other Assimil courses. Too bad. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Emiliana Diglot Groupie Germany Joined 5117 days ago 81 posts - 98 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Arabic (classical) | Message 16 of 22 10 September 2011 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
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does anyone has experiences with the German course "Arabisch ohne Mühe"? As I read through this threat I got a little confused about the different versions of the Assimil Arabic courses so I have no clue if the German course is the "good" one (bringing you as guest to an arabic family etc.) or not. I already have a little knowledge of arabic (maybe A1) and the three lessons that are available for free online seem to be quite easy (only about 10 words in total in 3 lessons). I'd be happy if anybody would share some impressions!
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