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| shadowzoid Groupie United States Joined 5532 days ago 76 posts - 85 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian | Message 1 of 9 07 May 2009 at 11:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Through my study, I was under the impression that verbs have an -en ending for infinitives and 2nd and 3rd person. And that verbs have an -e ending for 1st person. This applies to some verbs like:
Ich Mochte Sie Mochten Ich Verstehe Sie Verstehen yet, when I get to machen and kaufen. the Pimsleur German says that "I would like to buy" translates to "Ich mochte kaufen" why does it end in -en, not -e? also, when I want to say "with you" i say "mit ihnen" instead of "mit Sie". whats the difference between Sie and Ihnen? And one more thing. How do I know when to add "the"? The Pimsleur course says that in order to say "in the hotel", i say "in Hotel" instead of "in das Hotel". but to say "where is beethoven streed", I say "Wo is die Beethoven Strasse". why? and how do I know when to use "im" "am" or "in". dont they all mean the same thing. Like, why would I say "Im die Beethoven Strasse" instead of "am die Beethoven Strasse"? Edited by shadowzoid on 07 May 2009 at 11:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| betaquarx Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 5568 days ago 70 posts - 90 votes Speaks: German*, English, Dutch Studies: French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 2 of 9 07 May 2009 at 11:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Kaufen does end in "en" because it stands in the infinitive form in this sentence.
"with you" translates to "mit Ihnen" because you are in the dative case (so you ask "with whom?") Maybe this can help you a little bit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_grammar 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| customic Tetraglot Groupie PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5729 days ago 44 posts - 66 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Polish*, English, German, Turkish Studies: Arabic (Written), Persian | Message 3 of 9 07 May 2009 at 11:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I'll try to answer some of your questions, although I am not a German speaker.
* We say "Ich möchte kaufen", because we have two verbs here and the verb möchten is a modal verb, which we conjugate, whereas kaufen must be left in its infinitive form. This applies to all modal verbs (sollen, wollen, können) and some other as well. * We say "mit Ihnen", because "mit" requires a Dative form of a noun, pronoun etc which follows it. * Actually, I would say "auf die Beethoven Straße" EDIT: I was too late, betaquarx was the first to answer, but still I hope that my answer will be useful as well :-) Edited by customic on 07 May 2009 at 11:46pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6758 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 9 07 May 2009 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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This infinitive topic must be contagious, as it has been brought up at least once earlier this week... (but for Swedish).
I honestly fail to see how one can confuse things, since it works the same way in English, German and Swedish - at least on this very basic level. You say "I would like to buy", not buys/buying/bought or anything else, just the basic form. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5615 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 5 of 9 08 May 2009 at 7:47am | IP Logged | |||||
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It's not "In Hotel" but "ins Hotel". That is a shortened form of "in das Hotel"
Same goes for "im Hotel" which is shortened for "in dem Hotel", "am Hotel" is "an dem Hotel" 'An' and 'in' are only contracted to 'am' and 'im' when the next word would have been 'dem', which effectively is the case for masculine and neutral nouns (in the dative case, because both particles require the dative). We actually use our articles for most nouns (I think I still overuse 'the' in English), but sometimes it's difficult to notice because of the contracted forms. ('in' covers mostly the same situations as in English, 'an' covers expressions like 'at/beside/near to'. I have no idea how to learn those particles other than by exposure and repetition.) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Paramecium Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 5561 days ago 46 posts - 59 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Russian Studies: Japanese | Message 6 of 9 08 May 2009 at 9:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
Just a small correction. It is: "auf der Beethoven Straße" 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6514 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil | Message 7 of 9 09 May 2009 at 4:29pm | IP Logged | |||||
Depends, "auf die Beethoven-Straße" would be accusative. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Paramecium Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 5561 days ago 46 posts - 59 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Russian Studies: Japanese | Message 8 of 9 09 May 2009 at 6:06pm | IP Logged | |||||
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You are right but this form with "AUF" is very very less used. There are not very much examples where you will use this combination. Mostly you will see the combination of accusative and "STRAßE" with "IN"
For example: "Ich ziehe in die Beethovenstraße." 1 person has voted this message useful |
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