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| JPike1028 Triglot Senior Member United States piketransitions Joined 5397 days ago 297 posts - 337 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Italian Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Portuguese, Czech | Message 9 of 16 18 July 2011 at 11:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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To my mind the listening in L2 while reading L1 is similar to the beginning phases of L-R technique. I have not
done a comparison but I feel that it helps me to do it. A lot of times I can understand words phonetically, but am missing the meaning, so going through this way solidifies those meanings for me. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6909 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 10 of 16 18 July 2011 at 11:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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Some people lose focus whilst listening to L2 and reading L1 at the same time (even L1-L1). I like the approach, since the text gives meaning to the audio, something that would otherwise take "forever" (especially if we're talking about books).
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| TerryW Senior Member United States Joined 6357 days ago 370 posts - 783 votes Speaks: English* | Message 11 of 16 19 July 2011 at 2:48pm | IP Logged | ||
Am I the only one who really doubts that this thread will end the "How to Use Assimil" topic "once and for all"? ;-) 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6011 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 12 of 16 19 July 2011 at 6:58pm | IP Logged | ||
The thing to understand is that nobody can process two language-streams simultaneously. (According to current neuroscience, that is.) Generally, people cope with this by "timeslicing" -- alternating rapidly between the two streams. Some people find this very difficult indeed. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6909 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 13 of 16 19 July 2011 at 8:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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It might not be the "best" method out there (and by the way, it's not the only method I'm using, I hardly even use it due to lack of material and time), but I can definitely see that some people (including myself) find it helpful and "time efficient".
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6675 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 14 of 16 20 July 2011 at 8:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think the main idea is to keep it easy and don't over complicate things.
-First, passive wave one or several times: recognition. -Second, active wave one or several times: production. Do whatever you feel like as long as you work in a passive and active way. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| VityaCo Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 7081 days ago 79 posts - 86 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Russian*, Ukrainian*, English Studies: Spanish, Japanese, French | Message 15 of 16 22 August 2011 at 5:30am | IP Logged | ||
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There is no short cut in studying languages. Only hard work - that is it! Hard toil.
That is why Assimil had changed their flagship series misleading name from "without toil" to "with ease". They have everything in their dialogs you will ever need for your beginning everyday conversation, one will get a very solid foundation that one can build on when necessary. If one is a beginner, I would recommend to start a 15 minutes a day for a couple weeks to a months or so. Do not move to the next lesson till you are very comfortable with the current one. And gradually increase you time with lessons. If English speaking person will need 1200 -1500 hours to learn French, for example, then: 1350h *60/15 = 5400 days or 5400/365 = 14.5 years! Have a fun! But if you are able to study 3 - 4 hours a day, then: 1350/3 =450 days, 1350/4 = 337 days or about a year. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| watupboy101 Diglot Groupie United States Joined 4903 days ago 65 posts - 81 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French | Message 16 of 16 22 August 2011 at 6:10am | IP Logged | ||
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I am going to have to disagree with your calculations... First of all I don't think it will take 1350H to learn French,
Not even close, Assimil recommends 30 min a day for 6 months (.5*6= 3*30= 90 H) And I still think this is exaggerating a little bit... Most people will not spend 6 months on the one book, most will probably be between 4 and 5. And that takes you to B2! And for C1 it's basically the same thing so another 90H. This would take you to a good level of fluency, in at the most 200 H. But that is just the course you would obviously need more like movies and stuff so adding that let's make it 300 hours for C1 I think that is reasonable, maybe 1500 hours for native fluency but that is WAY to big of a number for medium fluency. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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