Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5337 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 1 of 14 20 August 2011 at 12:33am | IP Logged |
I am learning Russian. I have gone through Pimsleur 1, am on my way in Pimsleur 2, about 30 lessons into Assimil, finished Russian in your car 1 and TY Russian as well as a few lessons in random Russian textbooks and grammars.
I wanted to try out Michel Thomas, but thought there would be no sense in doing the foundation course or even the advanced course, since I had covered so much ground in other books allready. I therefore went for the Michel Thomas Vocabulary course. And I like MT. Being the pronunciation geek that I am, I admittedly cringe at the pronunciation of the female student, but I need to be spoon fed grammar, and the course is pretty good at spoon feeding. I have not had any difficulties following the course, as I know most of the vocabulary, so I suppose I made the right choice.
The thing is that they refer to grammar that has been taught at the foundation and advanced courses, and I am starting to wonder whether I should get those to get the grammar, even if I might get bored since I assume that I will know most of the vocabulary there too, particularly in the foundation course.
So any recommendations or suggestions?
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5337 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 2 of 14 21 August 2011 at 10:57pm | IP Logged |
A 100 people have looked at the question, and not one has any helpful suggestions? Is the question too complicated, or is it too simple? Hey, guys, I put my faith in you! Any comments are welcome!
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Neil_UK Tetraglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5265 days ago 50 posts - 64 votes Speaks: English*, German, Esperanto, Welsh Studies: Polish, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Mandarin, Japanese, Scottish Gaelic, French
| Message 3 of 14 21 August 2011 at 11:37pm | IP Logged |
The Michel Thomas Russian foundation and advanced courses are excellent. You quickly
learn the grammatical structure of the language, the verb conjugations, and the tenses,
as well as the Russian alphabet and a lot of useful vocab.
The course is well presented by Russian native Natasha Bershadski, she has a relaxed
but effective presentation style. So I'd definitely recommend it if you want to quickly
and easily learn the foundations of Russian grammar.
I think it'll make your Russiann sharper if you go through the MT foundation and
advanced courses.
On the downside, Russian verbs of motion aren't really covered in any great depth, but
you can learn those elsewhere.
Edited by Neil_UK on 21 August 2011 at 11:50pm
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6553 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 4 of 14 22 August 2011 at 8:41am | IP Logged |
Solfrid Cristin, you should be able to answer this question yourself. If you are having trouble with the grammar in
the vocabulary course, then take the other courses. If you're having trouble with the fakey MT grammar naming
convention, but still understand the grammar well, don't worry about it.
I agree that the foundation+advanced courses are pretty good, but would like to point out to any prospective users
that they don't teach a high percentage of the language's grammar. Whereas MT French probably teaches 90+
percent of the basic grammar, Russian is probably less than 50%.
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5337 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 5 of 14 22 August 2011 at 11:37pm | IP Logged |
Thank you Neil UK and leosmith, for your valuable opinions. I think I'll get the MT courses when I can, they seem to be exactly what I need.
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hobbitofny Senior Member United States Joined 6236 days ago 280 posts - 408 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian
| Message 6 of 14 25 August 2011 at 2:14am | IP Logged |
leosmith wrote:
I agree that the foundation+advanced courses are pretty good, but would like to point out to any prospective users
that they don't teach a high percentage of the language's grammar. Whereas MT French probably teaches 90+
percent of the basic grammar, Russian is probably less than 50%. |
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True. The Russian course is still teaching basic grammar in the vocabulary course. If you do all three courses you get all the basics covered of Russian grammar. If you only do foundation and advanced, you are not still missing some very important basic grammar.
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6553 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 7 of 14 25 August 2011 at 7:27am | IP Logged |
hobbitofny wrote:
If you do all three courses you get all the basics covered of Russian grammar. |
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I doubt this, but I'm going to take the vocab course in a few days, and will report back.
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hobbitofny Senior Member United States Joined 6236 days ago 280 posts - 408 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian
| Message 8 of 14 25 August 2011 at 12:14pm | IP Logged |
The Vocab course covers the cases not presented in the first two courses. To me, that is the basics of the grammar. I will be interested to read your report.
Edited by hobbitofny on 25 August 2011 at 12:15pm
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