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| Humdereel Octoglot Groupie United States Joined 4982 days ago 90 posts - 349 votes  Speaks: English, Spanish*, Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Written), Turkish, Persian, Urdu Studies: Russian | Message 9 of 29 16 October 2011 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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Agreed with William Camden and ANK47. On the link William Camden gave, there is also an important statement in the introduction: "The dialects are almost entirely mutually intelligible among native speakers..." and that the challenge for non-Native speakers is mainly getting used to the subtleties and making the most of whatever exposure you have.
In all, learning MSA first is recommended. It gives you the key to whatever dialect you'd be interested in, and that dialect in turn can prove making other dialects understandable. Also, I wouldn't worry about sounding too formal when speaking in MSA in an Arab country. That's a worry many students have, but the truth is that most Arabs appreciate whatever effort a foreigner makes in learning their language. Of course, that shouldn't keep you from getting comfortable with a dialect, since IMO, both MSA and a dialect are needed to get as much in tune with whatever part of the culture you find most interesting. Again, it's a challenging language, but IMO, worth it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sionis Newbie United States Joined 4904 days ago 33 posts - 34 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Romanian | Message 10 of 29 17 October 2011 at 8:20am | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you all for the help.
When you get those materials sorted, I would definitely like to take a look at the list. Also, how long did it take for some of you to get to a level of basic conversation? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sionis Newbie United States Joined 4904 days ago 33 posts - 34 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Romanian | Message 11 of 29 17 October 2011 at 8:44am | IP Logged | ||
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Also, are there any good websites that goes into detail about the history of the Arabic language, and the differences between the Arabic dialects as well as their history?
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| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6233 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 12 of 29 17 October 2011 at 5:02pm | IP Logged | ||
Actually, the wikipedia threads on these subjects are pretty good. They give several links where to find more in- depth resources as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sionis Newbie United States Joined 4904 days ago 33 posts - 34 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Romanian | Message 13 of 29 18 October 2011 at 8:55am | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you, I just didn't know how reliable it is.
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| Sionis Newbie United States Joined 4904 days ago 33 posts - 34 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian, Romanian | Message 14 of 29 18 October 2011 at 8:55am | IP Logged | ||
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Where should I start when learning MSA? Base in grammar? Reading and writings script? Etc.?
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| Humdereel Octoglot Groupie United States Joined 4982 days ago 90 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English, Spanish*, Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Written), Turkish, Persian, Urdu Studies: Russian | Message 15 of 29 19 October 2011 at 1:05am | IP Logged | ||
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For MSA, I started by learning how to write the script. That will help you once you start getting off of the transliteration. From there, I went on to grammar. But that was just me, there might be some people who somehow started with basic grammar.
I'm still sorting out through my materials, so it might be a few days before I put up my full list of materials I used, which I liked best, etc. but I do have a few websites: Arabic Learning Resources I loved the above website for vocabulary, and it also offers insight into the Egyptian dialect. I recommend that you build your vocabulary as you start Arabic and then practice using it in context. Natural Arabic For this, there is a price, but I found it useful for listening to Arabic and practicing it in context. Granted, these aren't the only websites. I'll continue by adding more later on. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Fortwenster Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4989 days ago 24 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchC1 Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 16 of 29 20 October 2011 at 12:43am | IP Logged | ||
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I don't have much experience with arabic, but I found this:
http://ikindalikelanguages.com/blog/which-dialect-of-arabic- should-you-learn/ Not sure how true it is. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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