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 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5847 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes  1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 11 01 November 2011 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
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MY REVISED LIST OF ESSENTIAL DUTCH EXPRESSIONS - Part one
in werkelijkheid = in reality iets in opdracht geven = to assign a task Het is daadwerkelijk gebeurd = It actually happend Veel Nederlanders zijn recht door zee = Many Dutch people are straightforward De politicus voert een machtstrijd = The politician leeds a power struggle onder invloed van iets zijn = to be under influence of sth de afstandsbediening = the remote control heel benieuwd over iets zijn = to be very cursious of sth het aanbod van goederen = the supply of goods iets meer of iets minder = something more or less de vorming of het ontstaan van het zonnestelsel = the forming of the solar system iemand of iets in de steek laten = to abandon sth or sb onderzoek uitvoeren naar iets = to reasearch on sth het spaargeld = the savings de bijdrage = the contribution zich ontplooien = to develop oneself prestaties leveren, iets presteren = to perform de aansluiting van de trein/bus = the train/bus connection de georganiseerde misdaad = the organized crime iets onderhandelen met iemand = to negotiate sth with sb vanzelfsprekend = self-evident het principe = the principle So, this is the first part of my list. I will first give you the time to "digest" it. Succes ermee! Fasulye 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Xerxes Quadrilingual Octoglot Newbie NetherlandsRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4770 days ago 10 posts - 12 votes Speaks: Dutch*, Danish*, SpanishC2* Studies: Biblical Hebrew*, French, English, German, Italian, Latin Studies: Ancient Greek, Turkish | Message 10 of 11 04 November 2011 at 5:49pm | IP Logged | |||||
I am sorry but that is simply not true (not that it really matters :P!). The three words you are comparing simply mean three different things: The word 'toekijker' (a 'towards-looker') has a negative sense to it, mainly implying that the person in question was just standing there, doing nothing while somebody got beaten up. In general the word is almost never used, the verb ´toekijken´ however is very common (mainly a negative sense). I do think that 'toekijker' does not have this negative twist to it in Flanders. A 'toeschouwer' (a 'towards-beholder') is a spectator of some common activity such as the theatre or a concert etc. It does not even come close to the English word 'bystander'. It is a positive word, implying that people were watching out of personal preference. An 'omstander' is a person who literally 'stands around', meaning exactly the same as the English word 'bystander' (please correct me if I am wrong). The word has a neutral sense to it and really is used a lot in the news(papers) for people who where there when some (uncommon) event happened, which could be positive (dealing out dildo's of recyclable materials on the streets for free etc.) or negative (some brawl, mother beating up her child etc.). Van Dale really is right 99% of the time. It is updated a lot to the current culture/ dominant usage of certain words and contains an extremely small amount of mistakes. Please do trust that in the first place at all times, even above forum posts! Hope it helped a bit. Really cool that you have all chosen to learn our puny language :)!! Xerxes 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tommus Senior Member CanadaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5866 days ago 979 posts - 1688 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, French, Esperanto, German, Spanish | Message 11 of 11 04 November 2011 at 8:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
Thanks for your very good help. It is much appreciated. I have several Van Dale electronic dictionaries and they are all excellent.
I consider it a very impressive and excellent language. Many countries speak languages that are not truly their own. People of The Netherlands speak a language that is truly their own and should be very proud of it. The Dutch-speaking countries should all be proud of their special, albeit smaller language (in terms of number of native speakers). And to be more accurate about me; I have not chosen just to learn Dutch. I have chosen to learn "things Dutch" because I find The Netherlands and other Dutch-speaking countries to be very, very interesting. That includes the countries, the people, the culture, the history, the science and much more. And the very best way to learn all this is in the Dutch language. There is so much to learn that it is a never-ending and very enjoyable task. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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