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| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6089 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes  1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 1 of 9 14 November 2011 at 4:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
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hi,
I've been tinkering around with the idea of getting Total Mandarin Chinese (Michel Thomas) but I'm reluctant to do so because I've never reached a confident level in Japanese. I haven't studied kanji for 2 years and in that time I've forgotten a lot. I've been meaning to review it and I should. At one time I knew 1,000**. At my current rate of learning, I'm sure it wouldn't take but a few months to reach that level again. Even though in "kanji terms" 1,000 is not many.... Is it okay to start learning spoken Mandarin (MT)? -- or should I just wait? Mandarin would be a very slooooow process. I just wonder when it would be best to get started. I appreciate feedback from those who love both these languages and have faced and conquered this dilemma (^-^) edit: **passive, I didn't output that many! Edited by Sunja on 14 November 2011 at 6:58pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5770 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 2 of 9 14 November 2011 at 11:20pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Just go for it, if that's your only concern. If you can deal with kanji having several different readings and there being different kanji for the same reading and a slight nuance in meaning, adding hanzi won't make that much of a difference - except, of course, in the time you need to spend on your languages. Of course, it'd always be better to learn a language until basic fluency before picking up another, and you are bound to get some interference, but at least in my experience it isn't any more difficult than French loanwords in English for somebody who learns both languages as second languages.
But - do you have the time to study four languages at the same time? Edited by Bao on 14 November 2011 at 11:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6089 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 3 of 9 15 November 2011 at 10:22am | IP Logged | |||||
No, darn it! o(>< )o I should stay away from Amazon.de! I was going to buy MT and put it aside, but knowing me, I'd want to start studying. I think my concern is just a natural feeling of knowing I can't do it all at once. Still,.....whether I sink or swim it would be fun to dive in! ^^ 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5770 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 4 of 9 15 November 2011 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Oh, I think everyone should dabble in Mandarin. I dabble in Mandarin. But my progress is horribly slow - in all of my languages. >>;
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| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6089 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 5 of 9 16 November 2011 at 9:34am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm reeaally slow in Japanese. How long have I been learning it? *ahem* Off and on since 2002 (O_O；) My problem is simply a lack of practice. I'll go back as soon as I'm done with French. The good news is that I'm more experienced now than I was 10 years ago and I know exactly what I have to do. It's now just a management issue.
I was hoping Leosmith would pop by since something he said in "Learning languages simutaneously" sticks in my mind:
one hour per language would be nice. That's my goal. I'll probably have to drop Spanish -- again! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6554 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 6 of 9 16 November 2011 at 1:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hi Sunja,
I stand by that post. But that advice is for someone who wants to learn a language to fluency efficiently. If you have other priorities, like you just want to have some fun, get the feel of the language, etc, etc, maybe it doesn't apply to you. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6089 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 7 of 9 17 November 2011 at 10:33am | IP Logged | |||||
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Speaking for myself, it's easy to let one hour dwindle to 10 minutes -- so your post serves as a good reminder!
Did you learn Japanese before Mandarin? What are/were your impressions? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6554 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 8 of 9 17 November 2011 at 2:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yes
I didn't know if you meant Mandarin or Japanese, so I prepared vidoe responses for both: My impression of Japanese My impressions of Chinese 1 person has voted this message useful |
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