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Alexander86
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 Message 9 of 39
02 May 2011 at 10:44am | IP Logged 
Henning Mankell!! He's the reason I learn Swedish, I even went to Ystad, which was just so lush! Plus, Stockholm is
seriously beautiful. Who cares about useful? It's as useful as you make it.

Edited by Alexander86 on 02 May 2011 at 10:44am

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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 10 of 39
02 May 2011 at 12:13pm | IP Logged 
Alexander86 wrote:
Who cares about useful? It's as useful as you make it.
I totally agree. You can do anything and go anywhere in life if you just want it strongly enough. Try for a college in Minnesota with a lot of Swedish students.

Since it is a national sport in Norway to make fun of Swedes, I can think of a number of possible answers to this one :-). Since I actually enjoy Swedish, I will however try to answer in a responsible fashion.

1. You can read lots of wonderful literature.
2. You can listen to lots of great music.
3. You'll be a hit among the Swedish girls - and there are worse fates for a young man.
4. You get 3 1/2 cultures and languages for the effort of one (Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, and Swedish-Finnish).
5. Plus Swedes are really gentle and nice. If I was forced into exile for some reason, Sweden is probably the country I would have chosen to live in.
6. It may offer you job opportunities, that the more studied languages will not, since there are few Americans who are actually good at speaking Swedish.
7. You could probably study in Sweden for very little cost, since studies at the University there, like in Norway, is practically free.
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 Message 11 of 39
02 May 2011 at 2:16pm | IP Logged 
A few more reasons:
1) If you are learning languages for pleasure rather than strictly usefulness then Swedish is a delight.
   As ellasevia on this Forum once said, Swedish is such a
   nice bouncy playful language. I agree, I like the sound of it too, and the prospect
   of speaking it makes it highly attractive to learn for me.   
2) Great Swedish design from cameras (Hasselblad) to cars (Volvo, SAAB),
   although I'm so-so about Ikea products. You can enjoy these without knowing
   Swedish of course, but it makes the country and culture more attractive for a
   would-be learner.
3) I studied glass-making, some of my favourite glass artists came from Sweden (also
   Czech Republic)...to spend a couple months visiting their studios would be a dream.
4) Food is pretty good. Last time I went the apple-cake and elk meat were highlights!

Edited by Mooby on 02 May 2011 at 6:49pm

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Ari
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 Message 13 of 39
02 May 2011 at 3:31pm | IP Logged 
Mooby wrote:
I'm so-so about Ikea products. You can enjoy these without knowing
   Swedish of course, but it makes the country and culture more attractive for a
   would-be learner.

Actually, walking through an IKEA store knowing Swedish is a delight, especially if it's not in Sweden. It's like walking through a landscape of references and plays on words that nobody understands but you (not even the staff!). Walking through IKEA in Chicago many years ago and seeing that the kids' area was called "Småland" made me laugh out loud. (You'll have to learn some Swedish to get that pun; I'm not explaining!)

Edited by Ari on 02 May 2011 at 3:31pm

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 Message 14 of 39
02 May 2011 at 5:01pm | IP Logged 
I had a lot of fun following Ari's advice to learn Swedish -- I ran up to the kids room and started turning over the furniture. "IKEA" and "families with kids" are terms so synonymous here that some of the product names have become houshold German words.

HUMLA - bumblebee (stuffed bee)
KRAMA - hug (washcloth)
MAMMUT - mammoth (stool, it's pretty durable, I have to say)
LILLABO - wooden train set -- if you take it apart it means "little lie" or "little home" -- correct me if I'm wrong
VIKA - must be something like "versatile" because it's used for a mix-n-match product
SNILLE - genius (office swivel chair)
SKUB- (this one is a mystery, is it from skubbar?)
PAX - peace, (which IKEA combines with place names for their furniture series)
SÖT - cute (stuffed toys)
VYSSA VACKERT - "sleep sweet" (mattress)
TROFAST - true, steadfast (child's storage shelf)

Mooby wrote:
..IKEA products. You can enjoy these without knowing Swedish of course....


or even better, you can enjoy Swedish without knowing the IKEA products! Although I have to admit, some of the stuff we thought we'd have gotten rid of by now we still have...
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 Message 15 of 39
02 May 2011 at 6:45pm | IP Logged 
Sunja wrote:
I had a lot of fun following Ari's advice to learn Swedish -- I ran up to the kids room and started
turning over the furniture. "IKEA" and "families with kids" are terms so synonymous here that some of the
product names have become houshold German words.

Glad I inspired some language learning! I'll help you out with the tricky ones.

LILLABO - wooden train set -- if you take it apart it means "little lie" or "little home" -- correct me if I'm
wrong

I suppose you meant "little live" with a 'v'? Correct. A translation of "nest" might be more appropriate in usual
circumstances, though I think the "home" translation is what's hinted at in this case.
Either way it's not strictly grammatically correct, but works as a cutesy compound word. It could possibly be
meant as the name of a little town.

VIKA - must be something like "versatile" because it's used for a mix-n-match product
Means "to fold"

SKUB- (this one is a mystery, is it from skubbar?)
Mystery for me, too. Dialectal, maybe?

PAX - peace, (which IKEA combines with place names for their furniture series)
Well, whilst "pax" means "peace" in Latin, the Swedish word is what you shout out when you want to "call"
something as yours, like "I call shotgun!" or "I call first ride!". The former in Swedish would be "Pax för att sitta
fram!" (the "att" pronounced like "å"). I guess the thinking is their furniture is so comfy you'll want to "call" it
before someone else sits there?

VYSSA VACKERT - "sleep sweet" (mattress)
Actually, "vyssa" means more something like "to lull to sleep", especially with songs, humming, hushing and
slowly rocking the baby.

TROFAST - true, steadfast (child's storage shelf)
Yes. Also "loyal".

Edited by Ari on 02 May 2011 at 6:47pm

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 Message 16 of 39
02 May 2011 at 7:13pm | IP Logged 
Thanks for reading into some of those for me. I like the insight you give on PAX

Ari wrote:
PAX - peace, (which IKEA combines with place names for their furniture series)
Well, whilst "pax" means "peace" in Latin, the Swedish word is what you shout out when you want to "call"
something as yours, like "I call shotgun!" or "I call first ride!". The former in Swedish would be "Pax för att sitta
fram!" (the "att" pronounced like "å"). I guess the thinking is their furniture is so comfy you'll want to "call" it
before someone else sits there?


I call it "expensive" ;) (You'd have to see the catalog to know what I mean)

Ari wrote:
TROFAST - true, steadfast (child's storage shelf)
Yes. Also "loyal".


I guess it would be funny to for a Swede to hear the conversations in a household with IKEA stuff, since we just call the things by their names like, "hey, put your toys back in the trofast kasten". -- Swedish+German -- "the loyal box"!


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