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nway
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 Message 33 of 39
22 September 2011 at 5:08pm | IP Logged 
caracao wrote:
Same, I prefer Korean movies, as I said, in Japanese it'as always about rape, sex, violence, "mafia", robots or monsters. Don't we have enough of that in American movies?

*facepalm so hard my forehead hurts*

You realize there's more to Japanese cinema than anime, right?

Besides, most Korean films are generic films about romance—don't we have enough of that in American movies?

Edited by nway on 22 September 2011 at 5:09pm

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DNB
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 Message 34 of 39
23 September 2011 at 12:47pm | IP Logged 
nway wrote:
caracao wrote:
Same, I prefer Korean movies, as I said, in Japanese
it'as always about rape, sex, violence, "mafia", robots or monsters. Don't we have
enough of that in American movies?

*facepalm so hard my forehead hurts*

You realize there's more to Japanese cinema than anime, right?

Besides, most Korean films are generic films about romance—don't we have enough of that
in American movies?


Actually, a decent amount of the Korean movies are reasonably well done
thrillers/action movies. The drama scene, however, is infested with these cheesy
romancefests that I have lost my complete hope of ever finding a decent non-romantic
drama.

Edited by DNB on 23 September 2011 at 12:48pm

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starrye
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 Message 35 of 39
23 September 2011 at 8:45pm | IP Logged 
Hmm, don't confuse what is popular online with certain fan groups, with everything that is actually made and available in Japan. There's more to Japanese entertainment than anime, robots, and monster movies. For that matter, there's more to anime and manga too, and other genres of Japanese music besides pop or visual-kei, etc...but it doesn't necessarily get translated or dubbed into English.

Hollywood is probably the most repetitive thing out there right now, in my opinion. But you can still find good movies if you look for them.

Edited by starrye on 23 September 2011 at 8:45pm

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vientito
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 Message 36 of 39
24 September 2011 at 5:56pm | IP Logged 
I like Korean movies and all the drama scenes. One thing that really stands out is the industry's daring attitude towards using new actors and actresses. They are not afraid to try new people. In fact, Korean people are filled with imagination and new ideas. There have been flops but these guys are never shy about experimenting different techniques.

There are no accidents in that. Drama is a central theme in Korean culture.   Even Kim Jong il loves a few dramas.
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egill
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 Message 37 of 39
25 September 2011 at 12:12am | IP Logged 
DNB wrote:
nway wrote:
caracao wrote:
Same, I prefer Korean movies, as I said, in
Japanese
it'as always about rape, sex, violence, "mafia", robots or monsters. Don't we have
enough of that in American movies?

*facepalm so hard my forehead hurts*

You realize there's more to Japanese cinema than anime, right?

Besides, most Korean films are generic films about romance—don't we have enough of that
in American movies?


Actually, a decent amount of the Korean movies are reasonably well done
thrillers/action movies. The drama scene, however, is infested with these cheesy
romancefests that I have lost my complete hope of ever finding a decent non-romantic
drama.


I think nway is being facetious here. He's illustrating that caracao's complaint about
Japanese cinema could be recast into one about Korean cinema that's just as valid—which
is to say not really.
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Americano
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 Message 38 of 39
16 October 2011 at 3:46am | IP Logged 
w1n73rmu7e wrote:
aquablue wrote:
Is China or Taiwan a place you would like to
live, or would you
prefer the more developed Japan or Korea?
Well, to be fair to Taiwan, it is at
about the same level as Korea. Japan, of course, is a completely different story. And
depending on where you go in the PRC, things can be quite nice too. Many people say
Beijing or Shanghai have largely reached 1st world levels, though I don't know how true
that is, since I haven't been there myself.


I must disagree with your assessment. I currently live in Korea, and I previously lived
in Taipei, and I must say that there is a striking difference in modernity. Not only
between the cities of Seoul and Taipei, of which Seoul is vastly more advanced, but
also of the countries as a whole.

I have also visited Japan extensively, and I would say that Japan and Korea are quite
similar in terms of development. Overall, Japan as a country is slightly more advanced,
but not that much. Seoul is nearly as advanced as Tokyo, and Seoul's public transit is
superior in quality to Tokyo's in my experience. Recently Seoul was ranked as the
world's 10th most powerful city, with Tokyo I believe coming in around 3rd or 4th. The
only other Asian city to make it in the top 10 was Hong Kong. Korea is modernizing at a
break neck pace these days.

Edited by Americano on 16 October 2011 at 3:52am

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clumsy
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 Message 39 of 39
19 October 2011 at 12:27pm | IP Logged 
How to tell apart Mandarin from Cantonese?
There is a simple way to it:
if syllables end with -m, -p, -k it is Cantonese (or maybe some other non-mandarin dialect).

but I think learning Mandarin anyway is better.

Cantonese is a spoken language mostly, even in Hong Kong people write in Mandarin.
Writen Cantonese is sometimes used there, but it's not generally accepted.
it's a separate language, but most people simply treat it is as a dialect.
So lack of Literature. Though maybe changing Mandarin to Cantonese in writen form is not so hard.
You have to remember few rules.
the most common words (be, not, etc) have different characters from Mandarin, but the vocabulary is mostly the same)

Cantonese is harder to learn, the tones, :S

I have tried to laern this language, but I cannot get the tones!

there are 6 or even 9 of them!
Telling apart falling from rising in Mandarin is much easier than , mid tone, high tone, low tone, two rising ones etc in Cantonese.




So I think Mandarin is the best choice.



A lot of people say that Japanese is hard due to the different readings, but I have never much problem with it, except for the names.



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