s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5430 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish
| Message 33 of 46 26 October 2011 at 6:03am | IP Logged |
Nature wrote:
Although I admit I am a little biased. I've lived here my whole life and being of European descent I just
don't get along with French people. And trust me if you lived in Montreal you'd know there is a huge
divide between the French (meaning French Quebecers; we just call them French) and the Europeans. I
mean, they tell their children to not eat too much at dinner because they have to make room for
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Ah, now the truth comes out. I said this was a sad joke. All I can say is that if anybody is seriously interested in learning French, Quebec City, Montreal and many other locations in Quebec are the places to go.
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wv girl Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5239 days ago 174 posts - 330 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish
| Message 34 of 46 26 October 2011 at 6:45pm | IP Logged |
I did a 3 week immersion course in Chicoutimi, Quebec, 10 or 11 years ago. Cost was a factor for me, &
Chicoutimi was cheaper than Quebec or Montreal. Certainly cheaper than Europe! My French tutor, a very
proper Parisian, warned me not to come back with an ugly accent. I wasn't sure what she was talking about.
When I arrived, I really had some trouble understanding the natives. I began to wonder, "Have I really been
studying French for a couple of years? What are these people saying to me?" But this passed after a few days. I
adjusted to the different accent, my host family understood what I was saying & I understood them. I really
benefitted from the immersion experience. When I began to write in my journal about my days there, it seemed
natural to switch over to French ... after all, that's what I spent 100% of my day in. We were all evaluated before
beginning classes & I was placed in a small group with mostly other adults who were serious about improving
their French. We spoke no English to each other until the last night, when we revealed ourselves in English. My
new friends were literally open-mouthed at my Southern accent ... it never came through in my French,
apparently.
I thoroughly enjoyed my experience in Quebec, even though I was in the more rural North. The only drawbacks
for me, I believe, related to being an adult who was used to having my own transportation & living in my own
space, being used to cooking my own meals, etc. But as an immersion experience, it was very successful. Upon
my return, the only complaint my French tutor had was that I had picked up "ouais" instead of the more proper
"oui."
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5381 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 35 of 46 26 October 2011 at 6:52pm | IP Logged |
wv girl wrote:
Upon my return, the only complaint my French tutor had was that I had picked up "ouais" instead of the more proper "oui." |
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Your tutor should know that the French use "ouais" just as much.
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Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4824 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin
| Message 36 of 46 26 October 2011 at 8:43pm | IP Logged |
but Quebekers say "ouin" and never "ouais".
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wv girl Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5239 days ago 174 posts - 330 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish
| Message 37 of 46 26 October 2011 at 11:54pm | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
wv girl wrote:
Upon my return, the only complaint my French tutor had was that I had
picked up "ouais" instead of the more proper "oui." |
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Your tutor should know that the French use "ouais" just as much. |
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I'm sure she did, but she was a very proper 80+ year old at the time & NEVER used slang with me. She promptly
told me "ouais" was ugly & I did my best not to use it in her presence.
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schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5560 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 38 of 46 27 October 2011 at 2:09am | IP Logged |
Nature wrote:
the French (meaning French Quebecers; we just call them French) and the Europeans. |
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That's quite amusing, if it's true, that the Canadians are French, and the French are Europeans. Perhaps a little confusing though.
Nature wrote:
I mean, they tell their children to not eat too much at dinner because they have to make room for dessert! What is up with that? |
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What axactly is the problem with that? (I'll probably regret asking, but it sounds like an interesting cultural insight).
Edited by schoenewaelder on 27 October 2011 at 2:10am
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Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4824 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin
| Message 39 of 46 27 October 2011 at 4:41am | IP Logged |
I guess when you cooked a nice dinner and a nice cake it's a disappointment when nobody wants a slice because
they're all full already...
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schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5560 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 40 of 46 27 October 2011 at 1:07pm | IP Logged |
I agree. I was wondering why someone would find that so unreasonable.
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