lindseylbb Bilingual Triglot Groupie ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4932 days ago 92 posts - 126 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, Cantonese*, English Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 25 of 29 21 October 2011 at 12:20pm | IP Logged |
Dont bother 凹凸, even as a native I don't feel comfortable about this two characters....
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aabram Pentaglot Senior Member Estonia Joined 5533 days ago 138 posts - 263 votes Speaks: Estonian*, English, Spanish, Russian, Finnish Studies: Mandarin, French
| Message 26 of 29 21 October 2011 at 12:30pm | IP Logged |
lindseylbb wrote:
Dont bother 凹凸, even as a native I don't feel comfortable about
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Out of interest, can you show your handwriting with these two characters? I'm wondering
which corners get rounded off. A photo perhaps or a scan? For science :)
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strikingstar Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5173 days ago 292 posts - 444 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*, Cantonese, Swahili Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written)
| Message 27 of 29 21 October 2011 at 1:05pm | IP Logged |
I'm glad I'm not the only one with an ugly ao tu.
I found some handwritten examples online. In the first one, the characters are
disproportionate. In the second one, ao is disproportionate. In the third one, the
characters are a little too rounded for my taste although its probably the most
aesthetically pleasing. (Everyone's a critic these days.)
http://pic.wenwen.soso.com/p/20091211/20091211232047-1073465 336.jpg
http://pic.wenwen.soso.com/p/20100724/20100724102330-1433413 512.jpg
http://pic.wenwen.soso.com/p/20100824/20100824124446-1172319 256.jpg
Edited by strikingstar on 21 October 2011 at 1:09pm
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OneEye Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6850 days ago 518 posts - 784 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, Taiwanese, German, French
| Message 28 of 29 21 October 2011 at 1:19pm | IP Logged |
The first one isn't working. The second looks hideous. Chinese is not written with perfectly straight lines. It looks like someone traced along some graph paper. The third is a little better. Learners of Chinese/Japanese really ought to look more at native handwriting and less at computer fonts. I see way too many people attempting to copy the printing in their textbooks, which is bad enough with a Kai font. But if you're looking at a Song or Hei font it's just unacceptable. It's like trying to write the Roman alphabet to look like Times or Helvetica. These are for printing books, not for handwriting.
Here are some animations of stroke order for those two characters. I assume that's what the poster above who wants to see "which corners are rounded off" is really looking for. If you learn the rules of stroke order well, you'll have little trouble knowing how to write a character. After that it's just a matter of balance and proportion, which is of course the hard part. :)
Note: I personally would not write either of the characters the way they're written in the links. They follow the Japanese standard, and I mostly use the traditional, or calligraphic, stroke order, with some of the Taiwanese standard thrown in. All are valid, however, and eventually you'll find what works best for you, and it will likely be a mix of styles.
Edited by OneEye on 21 October 2011 at 1:34pm
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lindseylbb Bilingual Triglot Groupie ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4932 days ago 92 posts - 126 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, Cantonese*, English Studies: Japanese, Korean
| Message 29 of 29 21 October 2011 at 6:21pm | IP Logged |
aabram wrote:
Out of interest, can you show your handwriting with these two characters? I'm wondering
which corners get rounded off. A photo perhaps or a scan? For science :) |
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I wish I could but it's not convenient at all with my cellphone...I hardly touch my computer these days. & nbsp; If you are a student or something, writing like printing is highly admired. Not exactly "print", though. Everytime I look at my classmate's handwriting I just think mine is miserable. that's not about calligraphy but so neat and so eye-friendly. I will try to get some photos of that some other day and post them here.-----------I just tried to write 凹凸, but find out I don't really know the right stroke order...Maybe that's the problem.
Edited by lindseylbb on 22 October 2011 at 8:13am
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