Eafonte Triglot Groupie Brazil Joined 6178 days ago 59 posts - 63 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, English Studies: Russian
| Message 1 of 15 20 March 2009 at 6:44pm | IP Logged |
I have a little doubt about the stress pattern in the progressive tense...
In "seviyorum" does the stress fall in the "i" or in the "o", or both, or elsewhere?
In other words: which is the stressed syllable in this progressive tense?
From the grammars I own I´ve gathered so far confusing guidelines about this.
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6214 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 2 of 15 20 March 2009 at 10:38pm | IP Logged |
On the o, I would say, usually. However, I have occasionally heard it on the i. It might be a dialect variation - a lot of the Turkish speakers I know come from the Maraş or Sivas areas. The stress is weaker generally in Turkish than it is in English.
Edited by William Camden on 20 March 2009 at 10:41pm
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!LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6763 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish
| Message 3 of 15 21 March 2009 at 3:06pm | IP Logged |
On the i, but very weak, almost not hearable. Stress on an o sounds very awkward.
Regards,
Ilhan
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6214 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 4 of 15 21 March 2009 at 5:13pm | IP Logged |
Interesting. I stress the o and nobody has picked me up on it. Is that true of all first person present continuous verbs?
I am going to listen more carefully to people talking in Turkish to see where the stress goes.
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6214 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 5 of 15 21 March 2009 at 5:36pm | IP Logged |
I have asked native Turkish speakers about it. When they say seviyorum, it sounds to me like there is a light stress on the o. Or there is almost even stress on the i and the o.
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!LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6763 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish
| Message 6 of 15 21 March 2009 at 11:24pm | IP Logged |
yeah, equal stress on both i and o would sound normal, but a stress only on the o would sound quite weird, at least to my ears.
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Ilhan
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William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6214 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 7 of 15 23 March 2009 at 7:19pm | IP Logged |
Spoken Turkish tends to be even in flow and reminds me in that aspect at least of spoken French, because of the relatively weak stress in both languages.
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!LH@N Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6763 days ago 487 posts - 531 votes Speaks: German, Turkish*, English Studies: Serbo-Croatian, Spanish
| Message 8 of 15 23 March 2009 at 8:51pm | IP Logged |
I agree. It was hard for me to actually find out the stress. I think if one doesn't know where to put the stress, it's best to not use any stress at all.
Regards,
Ilhan
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