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Emerald
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 Message 33 of 62
20 May 2010 at 11:00pm | IP Logged 
Finished Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal. The narrator was brilliant. I wonder if he
has done any other audio books.

Before getting back to do L&R again with Harry Potter, I am going to start on a new
book with a slightly different method.

I got Ramona y su madre from my local library; a children's book so I hope easy vocab.
I don't have audio, but I intend to read this book with a dictionary. I don't know what
the story is so aim is to actually "read" the book, understand the story by the end of
it.




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Emerald
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 Message 34 of 62
21 May 2010 at 10:06pm | IP Logged 
READING WITH DICTIONARY EXPERIMENT

Change of plans. I have gone through about 15 pages of Ramona y su madre with a
dictionary, and I found that not only it takes too long but it also rather tricky. Just
looking up words doesn't necessarily show the exact context, because then when I type
up the sentence into google translator, it comes up with a better sentence that makes
sense. So essentially I would be reading a book through the translator. While I have
picked up few words, and of course understood the context of the story, I do not
believe it is the most efficient method of study.

So I am going to move back to L&R sooner than I had planned.

**
L&R
I had intended to go back to Harry Potter after trying this book, but instead I am
going back to it now.

I have already read the whole book in Spanish while listening to Spanish audio at the
same time.

Now, moving on to second step. Reading in Spanish & English. I know the story in
English, but I intend to do this paragraph by paragraph to actually focus on each word
in each sentence.

The third step will be with Spanish Audio and English Reading.

**
Alternative to Dictionary

I don't have Spanish audio for other books, so I intend to do a lot more parallel
reading. I have several books in both Spanish and English, so instead of L&R, it would
have to be R&R method.

**
OTHER THINGS COMPLETED TODAY
Pimsleur Unit 24, 25
ANKI VOCAB
MT Foundation Scriptorium

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Emerald
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 Message 35 of 62
22 May 2010 at 3:03am | IP Logged 
L & R Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal

I have started the second step today. I listen to the audio in Spanish and read Spanish
at the same time. About a paragraph, or if it is a big paragraph then a few sentences
at a time.

Then, read English text.

Then, read Spanish text out loud without audio.

Sometimes, I read Spanish text out loud first, and then read English. Both works. The
reason for still having the audio is to get more grasp over pronunciation. Talking out
loud by myself without audio means I focus on the words more as I can't say them as
fast as the audio yet, and also then when I read English, I am more aware of the
context.

I also have an online dictionary and ANKI open during L-R. So I look up words I don't
know. Not necessarily every word, but all the ones that seem important to the context,
and I add them to ANKI. This way, they should be included in my daily vocab practice,
and also hopefully when I come across those words later in the book, I will remember
their meaning.

It is rather slow going, but I have to remind myself that I can't learn a language in a
week, and have to put the work in to get the results. But I am quite hopeful about
this, because I think it's helping in getting used to the context of the sentences,
pronunciation and just vocab in a more subconscious manner.
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Emerald
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 Message 36 of 62
23 May 2010 at 1:12am | IP Logged 
Today:

Pimsleur 1
Unit 26, and partial Unit 27

Linguaphone Disc 3 complete


ANKI Vocab

Harry Potter y la Piedra Filosofal - more L&R with Spanish Text and Audio and English
text. Again, I keep adding key words to ANKI. For this, I am now going to also listen
to just the audio. Currently, I have much more understanding when I read the words, but
in the normal speech, if I am not reading, I miss a lot. So listening skills clearly
need more practice.

Another thing I will be doing for that is to watch the shows in Spanish without
subtitles some of the time.


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Emerald
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 Message 37 of 62
24 May 2010 at 8:05pm | IP Logged 
Pimsleur Unit 27 done today.

Also listened to Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal audio.

L-R Method
This is going to get a lot more of my study time, and Harry Potter Book 1 is the main
subject. It may not be exactly as the method was originally described, but I have taken
at least main points out of that. Exposure, long text, and I intend to go over it
repeatedly.

It's exactly one month today since I started learning Spanish, and I feel like I have
made more progress in this than any other language in such short time, because my
studies have been far more focused. I have a goal, and I know where I am going, and
vague directions for how I am going to get there. Now, I just want to spend more time
on it, and feel the actual advancement.
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 Message 38 of 62
24 May 2010 at 8:26pm | IP Logged 
You seem to be progressing at a rate of knots now, which is wonderful news indeed. I think our approaches are similar in many ways, and it's always good to see another fellow traveler on the road.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing you progress and reach your goals over the following months, and am enjoying your log so far. Just keep up all the good work, it'll pay off in the end!

Although I'm only a mere beginner right now, if I can help in any way, just let me know.

¡Buena suerte, Esmeralda! :)
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 Message 39 of 62
24 May 2010 at 8:51pm | IP Logged 
Emerald wrote:
L & R Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal

I have started the second step today. I listen to the audio in Spanish and read Spanish
at the same time. About a paragraph, or if it is a big paragraph then a few sentences
at a time.

Then, read English text.

Then, read Spanish text out loud without audio.

Sometimes, I read Spanish text out loud first, and then read English. Both works. The
reason for still having the audio is to get more grasp over pronunciation. Talking out
loud by myself without audio means I focus on the words more as I can't say them as
fast as the audio yet, and also then when I read English, I am more aware of the
context.

I also have an online dictionary and ANKI open during L-R. So I look up words I don't
know. Not necessarily every word, but all the ones that seem important to the context,
and I add them to ANKI. This way, they should be included in my daily vocab practice,
and also hopefully when I come across those words later in the book, I will remember
their meaning.

It is rather slow going, but I have to remind myself that I can't learn a language in a
week, and have to put the work in to get the results. But I am quite hopeful about
this, because I think it's helping in getting used to the context of the sentences,
pronunciation and just vocab in a more subconscious manner.


a) If you have the books electronically, use a pop-up dictionary - it'll save you tons of time.

b) That's not L-R (it's missing intensity, you're interrupting it to look up words and use anki, etc). That said, parallel texts with audio are still great - enjoy, and good luck.

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Emerald
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 Message 40 of 62
25 May 2010 at 5:32pm | IP Logged 
Teango wrote:
You seem to be progressing at a rate of knots now, which is wonderful news indeed. I think our approaches are similar in many ways, and it's always good to see another fellow traveler on the road.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing you progress and reach your goals over the following months, and am enjoying your log so far. Just keep up all the good work, it'll pay off in the end!

Although I'm only a mere beginner right now, if I can help in any way, just let me know.

¡Buena suerte, Esmeralda! :)


Muchas Gracias! Hopefully, in a few months we can talk in Spanish instead of English. Thank you, and please feel free to ask if I can help you.


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