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newyorkeric
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 Message 9 of 11
26 April 2011 at 2:46pm | IP Logged 
40bb, how do you like Il polacco senza sforzo?
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Haukilahti
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 Message 10 of 11
26 April 2011 at 3:33pm | IP Logged 
I can answer for myself: wonderful. Barbara Kuszminder did a great job, especially trying to put a "joke" in most lessons after the first few ones. Besides it really takes you up to B1/B2 level.

Il polacco senza sforzo corresponds to the 1985 (?) French version and the age shows at times. A couple of changes from audio to (newer, 2002?) Italian text, such as "milicja" (audio) / "policja" (text), "seria amerykańska" (audio) / "amerykański serial" (text). Besides there are some older words or uses not found in today's Polish anymore, such as "to lend/borrow something", the something in the genitive instead of accusative.

There are some errors in the grammatical notes too, for example at times they speak of the wrong case. This is not a problem if you use some other materials as well or you have some basic knowledge of grammar. I used this Assimil as my main learning material and those sporadic errors or archaisms didn't hamper my learning at all.

I listened to the new French (Le Polonais) audio and I must say I'm not impressed. I'd go so far to suggest the older (Il polacco senza sforzo) version. I don't know whether the newer French Le Polonais will eventually be translated into Italian, but I have my doubts.



Edited by Haukilahti on 26 April 2011 at 3:35pm

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40bb
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 Message 11 of 11
16 August 2011 at 5:50pm | IP Logged 
Sorry I didn't answer earlier, but it's a long time I don't enter this forum. Haukilahti gave you a very good answer. "Il polacco senza sforzo" is a good method, but you're definitely going to need another grammar source and a dictionary to help you throughout your study, because the book has a small grammar appendix and no dictionary. In addition I would suggest to translate since the beginning from Polish to Italian/your native language and when you'll have done a significant number of lessons to try to listen to the first lessons without checking the text, 'cause, for sure you know, there is a huge gap in comprehension between listening/checking a text and "real" listening.


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