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| Cardenasga Newbie Bolivia Joined 4921 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 5 10 June 2011 at 9:13am | IP Logged | ||
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Hello, I have a question about Afrikaans and it's regional accents. Is there a difference between the Afrikaans spoken in Cape town and Pretoria? Which accent would be considered neutral? I am learning Afrikaans on my own and would like to in the future go to South Africa to further my learning. From what I've heard, Pretoria has the highest concentration of Afrikaans speakers, is this correct? Thank you all for your time. :)
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| xkuehn Triglot Newbie South Africa Joined 4920 days ago 5 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English, Afrikaans*, Dutch Studies: Japanese | Message 2 of 5 10 June 2011 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | ||
Ja, daar is beslis 'n verskil tussen die dialekte wat in Kaapstad en Pretoria gepraat word. Yes, there definitely is a difference between the dialects spoken in Cape Town and Pretoria. Ek neem aan dat jy met "neutraal" bedoel "standaard". Standaardafrikaans word meer algemeen in die binneland gepraat. Dit is ook meer algemeen onder blankes (wat terloops 'n minderheid onder Afrikaanssprekendes is). Standaardafrikaans is die vorm wat in koerante, in wetenskaplike literatuur en (gewoonlik) op televisie en radio gevind word. Daar is wel 'n stereotipiese Pretorianer-aksent, maar die meeste mense daar praat nie só nie. Dit is 'n groot stad met inwoners van diverse oorsprong. I assume that by "neutral" you mean standard. Standaardafrikaans is more commonly spoken in the interior (of South Africa). It is also more common among white people (who incidentally make up a minority of Afrikaans speakers). Standaardafrikaans is the form which is found in newspapers, in scientific literature and (usually) on television and radio. It is true that there is a stereotypical Pretorian accent, but most people there do not speak like that. It is a large city with inhabitants of diverse origin. Indien jy Afrikaans wil leer, is die platteland waarskynlik beter as die stede. Gauteng, die Wes-Kaap en die Noord-Kaap is die drie provinsies waar Afrikaans die mees algemene huistaal is, maar dit wissel van een dorp na die volgende. If you want to learn Afrikaans, rural areas are probably better than the cities. Gauteng, the Western Cape and the Northern Cape are the three provinces where Afrikaans is the most common home language, but it differs from one town to the next. 'n Ander opsie is die omgewing rondom 'n tradisioneel Afrikaanse universiteit. Potchefstroom en Stellenbosch trek groot hoeveelhede Afrikaanse studente, moet net nie té veel suip nie. Maak seker dat jy nie in universiteitsvakansies kom nie; by Potch rol hulle die teerpaaie op en bêre hulle in 'n skuur. :) Another option is the area surrounding a traditionally Afrikaans university. Potchefstroom and Stellenbosch draw large numbers of Afrikaans students, just don't binge TOO much. Be sure not to come during a university holiday; at Potch they roll up the paved roads and store them in a shed. :) Vermy Kwazulu-Natal, dit is 'n provinsie met baie min Afrikaanssprekendes (tensy jy gaan om die sardientjies te sien). Avoid Kwazulu-Natal, it is a province with very few Afrikaans speakers (unless you go to see the sardine run). 7 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cardenasga Newbie Bolivia Joined 4921 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: English* | Message 3 of 5 11 June 2011 at 9:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you, that is a lot of information :) I was looking at places where I could go, and Stellenbosch looks beautiful, and it seems that the majority of the people there speak Afrikaans. Do they speak Standaard Afrikaans there?
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| xkuehn Triglot Newbie South Africa Joined 4920 days ago 5 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English, Afrikaans*, Dutch Studies: Japanese | Message 4 of 5 28 June 2011 at 9:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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Sorry about the late reply. I haven't been to Stellenbosch myself, so I'll just answer to the best of my ability.
In terms of the majority, I would say that the dialect would probably be more or less the same as in Cape Town (i.e. not standard). However, Standaardafrikaans would probably be common amongst the white inhabitants and students. Here are some easy differences to help you tell whom you're talking to: 1) In the Cape, they say "djy" and "djou" as opposed to "jy" and "jou". 2) "Ek" is also pronounced differently ("peck" as opposed to "pack" -- minus the p). 3) Cape was a British colony for a long time, so there are a lot of English words thrown in between. You should do okay. The dialects are mutually comprehensible. P.S. Try Cape Malay cuisine. Very good. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Remster Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4809 days ago 120 posts - 134 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English Studies: German, French | Message 5 of 5 03 October 2011 at 11:01am | IP Logged | ||
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This might not be helpfull, but I just wanted to say that as a native Dutch speaker, I could read this as fast as normal dutch, quickly transforming the quintessential Afrikaans spelling to Dutch.
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