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Diglot
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 Message 9 of 15
21 July 2011 at 3:23pm | IP Logged 
Good God, nway! What a brilliant post! I wish I could give it more than one vote.

@ Cainntear, very interesting points, do you think the internet might help with that too,
though? It gives you a little more freedom to do your thing without being too reflective.
I think nway said above that a lot of youtube course writers just "wing it", for
instance.

Edited by Random review on 21 July 2011 at 3:29pm

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 Message 10 of 15
21 July 2011 at 3:37pm | IP Logged 
Check out the subscription list on my channel for some more great teachers



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Cainntear
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 Message 11 of 15
22 July 2011 at 9:25am | IP Logged 
Random review wrote:
@ Cainntear, very interesting points, do you think the internet might help with that too,
though? It gives you a little more freedom to do your thing without being too reflective.
I think nway said above that a lot of youtube course writers just "wing it", for
instance.

Unfortunately it may have gone too far -- not only does it let you "wing it", it lets you wing it without ever having taught. Most good teachers learn their craft in the classroom over years, and on YouTube, anyone with a webcam can become a teacher at a moment's notice....

The other thing that YouTube and the internet in general do is steal the beginners. I hear more and more people talking about learning stuff from the internet for free, damaging the market for professional materials.

Dagnabbit, I want to specialise in beginners, and I want to earn some money!!!
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iguanamon
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 Message 12 of 15
22 July 2011 at 1:50pm | IP Logged 
Excellent thread, I am enjoying following this.
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DaraghM
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 Message 13 of 15
22 July 2011 at 4:05pm | IP Logged 
Cainntear wrote:
On the documentary The Language Master, you hear him talk about using "it's a fair thing to do" to teach "faire"(to do/make) in French. But he is oblivious to the fact that he teaches "fare" (Italian) and "hacer" (Spanish) perfectly well without any mnemonic.


In the French course, he also does the same thing with venir (to come) where he likens it to the wood veneer. It would've been better if he linked it to the English via the past participle, venu, and then revenu for returned. This would lead him to the origin of the English word, revenue, for the concept of returns.

However, it may have been a bit of a stretch to link the English word fact,"that is done", to the past participle of the Latin verb facere, to do, and then to faire. It does make remembering the word for fact easy in both languages as they're both the past participle, fait (Fr) and hecho (Sp).

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DavidW
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 Message 14 of 15
23 July 2011 at 11:19pm | IP Logged 
The other day I had to lay some paving stones. I did a quick youtube search, and 15
minutes later I was an expert.

Video is superior to the written word for teaching many things. It can communicate much
more information. In principle, I would sooner buy 25hrs of recorded material with a
PDF review guide (for $25), even if the production quality was average, than a Teach
Yourself manual, so long as the teaching methods were sound. It might also be cheaper
to produce than a book, which needs very careful wording, editing, graphic design and
layout, otherwise it appears amateurish. A video can be a little more 'off-the-cuff,'
but still needs planning, obviously.

The youtube partner program is making video 'rentals' very easy to set up, and would be
ideal for such projects.

I'm going to Minsk next month, and I'll put the idea to the staff of the Minsk State
Linguistic University, who has some of the best teachers I've ever seen.
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 Message 15 of 15
24 July 2011 at 2:39am | IP Logged 
nway wrote:
Korean - BusyAtom JB
There are a ton of people teaching Korean on the Internet, but none of them come close to the clarity, depth, and breadth of this course. Some of these videos are up to an hour long, which ought to make it clear that this isn't your typical YouTube "guru" dropping a bunch of 5-minute videos that are useless to the serious language learner looking for a long-term course.


My first thought when I saw this segment of your post was to wonder why I hadn't heard of this teacher before...then I clicked the link and YouTube informed me that I was already subscribed to that channel (I had just never gotten around to actually watching any of his videos). Thanks for the reminder and the brief review. :)


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