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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5056 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes  Speaks: Russian* | Message 33 of 45 14 September 2011 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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The recstored pronunciation is needed for people from different countries to understand
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| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6659 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 34 of 45 14 September 2011 at 4:20pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
When nasal u and an a melts together it becomes /wã/.. kind of. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5228 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 35 of 45 14 September 2011 at 4:29pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Interesting. Is that from Allen's book?
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| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6659 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 36 of 45 14 September 2011 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I actually do not recall, but, it’s a more plausible scenario rather than just omitting final vowels before others. This gives less ambiguity, especially when it comes tot he q-qords. Here’s a homepage for a Living Latin-course taught by a group of enthusiast and their founded thoughts on the pronunciation of Latin. http://avitus.alcuinus.net/schola_latina/soni_en.php Edited by Hampie on 14 September 2011 at 4:36pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5228 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 37 of 45 14 September 2011 at 4:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Why? That's what's done in French and Italian.
My sense was that there were two schools, one that elides the vowel entirely and another that maintains the first vowel but converts it into a glide. Is there more evidence one way or the other? I suppose I'll have to order Allen's book. Edited by ScottScheule on 14 September 2011 at 4:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6659 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 38 of 45 14 September 2011 at 4:47pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
No, in French and Italian there are elisions where the sound disappears entirely. But indeed, Allen’s book is worth reading. It’s very short and compact but full of interesting information :). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5228 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 39 of 45 14 September 2011 at 4:49pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That was my point. I should have been more clear. I was responding to your statement: "I actually do not recall, but, [changing the preceding vowel to a semivowel is] a more plausible scenario rather than just omitting final vowels before others." So I said, why is non-elision more plausible when the French and Italians elide the vowel completely? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Hampie Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6659 days ago 625 posts - 1009 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Latin, German, Mandarin | Message 40 of 45 14 September 2011 at 5:10pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
qui, quæ, quem, quam, quo, qua would all be rendered kw' 1 person has voted this message useful |
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