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LebensForm
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 Message 1 of 16
17 September 2011 at 2:32am | IP Logged 
Guten Abend everyone...
I am a bit confused about the whole eszett ß thing. I thought it wasn't used as much as it use to be, due to the spelling reformes they had, but today my language instructor said that it is used because I wrote a word down doing the double s thing and she said that that isn't correct, that I should use a eszett, which I always do when typing German but when I write I perfer the ss because frankly, my ß looks like a capital B and then I wonder why is that there when I go back to it. So yeah what is the whole deal on this eszett business? Thank you!
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Dr. POW
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 Message 2 of 16
17 September 2011 at 3:26am | IP Logged 
The eszett is a cultural thing, I guess. It is not used in Switzerland.

http://german.about.com/library/weekly/aa092898.htm

"For the sharp (voiceless) [s] after a long vowel or diphthong one writes ß, as long as
no other consonant follows in the word stem."
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montmorency
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 Message 3 of 16
17 September 2011 at 4:14am | IP Logged 
Another article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F

Personally, I like "eszett" and am glad they didn't abolish it.


As for writing it, just look at it more carefully and practice. It's not that
difficult, and I doubt if it is going away any time soon.

hm...if that link of mine doesn't work, just google for eszet




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t123
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 Message 4 of 16
17 September 2011 at 8:40am | IP Logged 
What was the word? It's still used in words like Fuß and Spaß. I think in most cases it's used if the words ends in a ss and the
previous vowel is long, use ß instead. For example that's why it's now Fluss and no longer Fluß.
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georgiqg
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 Message 5 of 16
17 September 2011 at 6:57pm | IP Logged 
Several months ago I faced the same problem: my “ß” looked like a “B”. Then I searched
information on the internet and I found in WikiBooks that someone had asked the same question:

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Question: “Could someone point me in the direction of an article explaining how to handwrite
<ß>? I don't know how to make <ß> look different from <B>. Thanks!”

Answer: “When writing "B" I beginn with a vertical stroke at the top and stop at exactly
at the line. Then the right part is added, beginning again at the top. The result is
a bit edged. "ß" starts at the bottom (some mms below the line, that's probably most
important), and is then drawn without any stop, what makes it look curvy at the top.
You can see this very cleary in these pictures:



hope that helps... --Tigerdrake 18:44, 5 August 2007 (UTC) (German native speaker)
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That helped me a lot, I hope it helps you too.

-- Georgi --
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Doitsujin
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 Message 6 of 16
17 September 2011 at 7:16pm | IP Logged 
Actually, you can write the Eszett it in many different ways. Just have a look at the pictures of the various handwriting systems referred to in the Ausgangsschrift Wikipedia entry.
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William Camden
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 Message 7 of 16
17 September 2011 at 7:30pm | IP Logged 
In older English writing and printing, s was sometimes represented with a sign that resembled an f. I wonder if this was a related phenomenon.

The German symbol is certainly not obsolete in Germany, though it is not used so much as it once was.

Edited by William Camden on 17 September 2011 at 7:30pm

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LebensForm
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 Message 8 of 16
18 September 2011 at 2:56am | IP Logged 
Oh the word was dreißig, but I spelled it as dreissig... lol I know this doesn't even look right. I just didn't want her to think it was a B. But thanks to all. Yeah, I like the ß but just not when I write it. I will practice it though. Otherwise I'm a fan :)


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